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(...) Nor does he mention Washington's “inaction” at the time; did the washington not block a UN motion condemning SH? (...) No, some say it is second only to Scottish Haggis. Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lol. By "dealings", I assume you mean give them WMD and help oppress their populations? BTW: Don't forget, SH was the "lesser of two evils" during the 1991 uprising. (...) Are you saying all post 1945 US military actions have been illegal? (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, the point is that to justify his choice to invade Iraq, Dubya condemned Hussein for using chemical and biological weapons against his enemies and his own people. Dubya did not mention that these were the very same weapons and delivery (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I’ve always thought that this was a silly criticism, true twenty years ago, during the Iran/Iraq war we supported Hussein as the lesser of two evils, you act as if we furnished his palace and rolled out the red carpet. We often have dealings (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That very much depends on the body in question! ;) I'll be spending the next few days cycling (MTB) around (URL) and Blair Athol>, if I see a (URL) real one> I'll take it's picture and post it here! Scott A(URL) .> (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Not sure if (URL) this> should be here or in OT-Fun. Dave! FUT as appropriate! (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, Dave! Perhaps we should! The stuff is MUCH more offensive than looking at the human temple, er body, after all, Dave! (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (URL) this> Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, let's look at the facts. The porn industry rakes in about $20 billion annually; how much money to Iraqis make off of their religious expression? Obviously, if they're not making a tidy profit, they're savages. Besides, don't castigate (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...and, like SH, Marcos was supported by Washington. (...) Forgive me, but I don’t remember the Philippines being invaded as part of an illegal and immoral war to remove Marcos? (...) It has been part of the occupation plan to fragment the (...) (20 years ago, 7-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here again the age old question, which is worse, stable but evil leaders, or democracy and instability. Similar thing happened in the Philippines, Marcos was corrupt and evil, but his regime was stable. As soon as he was removed chaos ensued. (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) WOW. This reminds me a lot of Douglas Coupland's end of the world fiction, particularly _Girlfriend In A Coma_ but even more surreal because it is real (!!). Great site. Thanks for the pointer, Frank. -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) God this makes me depressed. 1. To think that this is my country, a democratic country, where I must take a certain amount of responcibility for what is being done. 2. To hear a responce from someone being affected by these actions (something (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and until the weekend Bush was adamant it was infiltrators (Syrians, Iranians, Chechnyan’s etc) and "Sadam loyalists" who were to blame for the trouble. Scott A (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Despite the noise coming from Washington, and the right's "islamo-fascist" paranoia, Iraq remains < (URL) secular>. That said, I agree that Bush is radicalizing moderate opinion… and not just in Iraq! Only one country remains placid: his own. (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yup, this is exactly what I expected would happen - remove Saddam's infrastructure and the chief organizing force would be the religious fundamentalists, who will, of course, end up being a bigger threat than Saddam ever was. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I assume, across the pond, it doesn't look like what we saw from here but, I assure you, we, the people living down here don't need to read that article to see how "spectacular" it is. It amazes me dearly when I see how naive you Americans can (...) (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pretty much what we both felt would be the case. It's a long article, but a fairly interesting one. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 6-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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