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(...) If I read the original post correctly, the question was of fuel efficiency and the physical implications of a Moon-based versus an Earth-based launch toward Mars and beyond. Naturally this entails the cost of development, because fuel costs (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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dr_scott_arthur@yahoo.co.uk (Scott A) wrote in <Hrs768.1LwG@lugnet.com>: (...) In view of your response somewhere else in this topic, [quote] JO: I think the correct phrase should be "Anti-Israelism", and not JO: "Antisemitism". SA: I prefer the (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *Sigh* The item cited above is the result of an academic study which was published in a peer reviewed journal by a respected academic. Do you have something similar to support your argument, or are you just "shooting from the hip"? Scott A (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I prefer the term "pro-justice". (...) Indeed; not content with suppressing free speech in the occupied territories, Sharon is now using the call of “anti-Semitism” to curtail it (URL) elsewhere>. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) could become a libertarian paradise! Well, it has these things going for it: * Unequal distribution of money -- those with larger families can pool their resources and thus have an advantage over their inferior (e.g. infertile or gay) (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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dr_scott_arthur@yahoo.co.uk (Scott A) wrote in <HrKu9v.2Jw@lugnet.com>: (...) The situation in continental Europe (where I live) is rather different. (21 years ago, 19-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Harro de Jong" <hdejong@zonnet.nl> wrote in message news:HrHCB9.67E@lugnet.com... (...) I think the correct phrase should be "Anti-Israelism", and not "Antisemitism". And yes, it is getting bigger. Israel is hiding behind what the call (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Found this interesting reading. (URL) has more info on what went into the new policy than one usually sees. There are some biases and conclusions there that not everyone will necessarily agree with but it's worth reading in my view. It says part 3 (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "lugnet.off-topic.geek (group): Geeking and geek toys (computing, games, peripherals, hacking, science, etc.): discussions of a generally (but not necessarily always) positive and serious or helpful nature." You may not agree, but it seems (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? I think this discussion is very appropriate to .geek, except for the parts where you are starting a debate. Any reason we can't talk about NASA here? (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, no I don't. And stop resetting the FUT back to geek. (...) For NASA, sure. They blew 100B on something that could have been built out of spent shuttle fuel tanks if they had spent about 100M early in the program. For Burt Rutan, no. (or (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave K and I are both right although the casual reader may not see it. He's right under the assumption that all your mass is going to come from earth and you need a place to assemble all the bits and pieces into a ship that was too big to launch in (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Boost the fuel (and oxidizer) from earth? Fuel maybe, oxidizer no. The moon has among its most common elements: oxygen, silicon and aluminum Solar cells can be made from silicon and aluminum + trace elements. Just add energy. (and technology (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave, get on message; it is termed a "Pre-emptive attack". Scott A (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is pretty clear that Isreal does whatever it wants because it is "on Uncle Sam's payroll". It is Isreal which has broken countless UN resolutions. (...) It is a democracy in the same sense that (URL) apartheid> South Africa was a democracy. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm here guys..:-) not vanished yet. Actually quite alive and kicking. Just not have enough time since I got that new job/position since september 2001. I'm still lurking around though, from time to time. I might be catching up and restart in (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's not what I'm saying at all. In fact, in my post: (URL) asserted quite the opposite: (...) But Israel, as the coddled foster child of the mighty US, enjoys a privilege of protection that its neighbors do not enjoy. Therefore, Israel has (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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orrex@excite.com (Dave Schuler) wrote in <HrHx8H.1zHJ@lugnet.com>: (...) So those other Middle Eastern nations can do whatever they want, because they're not on Uncle Sam's payroll? (...) Israel is also the only democracy in the region... (...) (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think we all know who the biggest threat to "world peace" right now is. Just like we know which country played a big part in 911. Don't allow yourself to be distracted by the media... or even life on mars! Scott A (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So why make an issue of the "current worldwide antisemitism" when there are bigger fish to fry? Can I assume we a agree that: Other forms of racism are more prevalent than anti-Semitism? The notion of a "Jewish state" is undemocratic? WW2 does (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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