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Re: Babies who threaten to topple Israel?
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Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:45:53 GMT
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orrex@excite.com (Dave Schuler) wrote in <HrHx8H.1zHJ@lugnet.com>:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Harro de Jong wrote:
> > dr_scott_arthur@yahoo.co.uk (Scott A) wrote in
> > <HrHJ6M.1F4I@lugnet.com>:
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> > > Israeli nationalists ({not} Jews) break international law, oppresses
> > > a people, murder civilians and then acts like a petulant child when
> > > criticised. WW2 justifies none of that.
> >
> > All of this seems to be par for the course for the region. If you're
> > going to criticise the Israelis, why not apply the same standards to
> > the entire Middle East?
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> One reason is that the US provides massive funding and military support
> for Israel but not for other Middle Eastern nations.
So those other Middle Eastern nations can do whatever they want, because
they're not on Uncle Sam's payroll?
> Additionally,
> Israel is after all, the only nation in the region confirmed to possess
> nuclear weapons, but the US hasn't undertaken any pre-emptive invasions
> of Israel.
Israel is also the only democracy in the region...
> Another reason is that when the Israeli military kills
> Palestinian civilians, it's considered acceptable casualties of
> legitimate, self-protecting action, but when Palestinian bombers kill
> Israeli civilians, it's called terrorism.
Surely you see the difference between targeting criminals/terrorists, and
random killings?
> A related reason is that,
> when Israeli civilians are killed, it makes headlines in the US and UK,
> but when Palestinian civilians are killed, they barely qualify for a
> footnote.
In the same way that citizens of the Arab nations getting killed by their
own government (for crimes like voicing an opinion, or failing to comply to
medieval Sharia laws, or being a member of the wrong tribe) hardly gets any
attention, let alone results in that government being put under pressure by
the rest of the world?
> To be sure, none of these reasons justifies bloodshed by either side,
> but these and many other reasons may contribute to the sense that Israel
> is held to a standard diffferent from that applied to its neighbors in
> the region.
I agree that there's a double standard. But in many respects, it's Israel
that's being judged more harshly than the Arab nations.
--
Harro de Jong
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| (...) That's not what I'm saying at all. In fact, in my post: (URL) asserted quite the opposite: (...) But Israel, as the coddled foster child of the mighty US, enjoys a privilege of protection that its neighbors do not enjoy. Therefore, Israel has (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Babies who threaten to topple Israel?
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| (...) It is pretty clear that Isreal does whatever it wants because it is "on Uncle Sam's payroll". It is Isreal which has broken countless UN resolutions. (...) It is a democracy in the same sense that (URL) apartheid> South Africa was a democracy. (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) One reason is that the US provides massive funding and military support for Israel but not for other Middle Eastern nations. Additionally, Israel is after all, the only nation in the region confirmed to possess nuclear weapons, but the US (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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