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(...) I don't think so. Hmm. You've come up with a good counterexample, at least on the surface. The easy counter is to discuss intent, your intent presumably was to buy the items til you changed your mind, while she (being an HD hater with a (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me see if I understand this. If I go into a store and put a LEGO set in my cart, walk around for an hour or so, and then return that LEGO set to a shelf very near where I'd first picked it up, then I've committed a crime? (...) That's a (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In general, or at specific naff implementations? (...) I'm not sure quite how far back to go to answer this. Do you deny that it's even possible for a private firm to do something more efficiently than a government? If you do, we have no basis (...) (21 years ago, 13-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I'm not really being relevant. Just a bit p****d off with the government privatising and contracting out stuff. I can't see how it can cost less or be better as at the end of the day some of the money has to go to shareholders. In the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How about them? In a free market, they won't be in business very long, will they? (...) Perhaps you can elaborate a bit on what exactly you're getting at. (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Why isn't this group called off-topic.USpolitics? Tim Mind you it does give me an outlet when I'm feeling annoyed and I fcan stand back and laugh as well :) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I absolutely agree that major corporations more often than not are run for the benefit of management and not the stockholders. They do it in a variety of ways, too. Only recently have the stockholders started to question the huge salaries and (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) how about companies that are run for the benefit of the stock/shareholders to the detriment of service to the customer? This is endemic in companies that supply services to the public sector, especially where the service was previously (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've posted links to Hanson stuff before, and he's probably one of my favorites at NRO (not exactly a hotbed of balanced reporting or opinions) as he puts things into interesting perspectives even if I don't always agree with him. (URL) final (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. Fair enough. And as a most minor among minor shareholders my opinion doesn't count for much. (to management, speaking as a shareholder). However (since this tiny thing is veering off in many different directions) would you agree or (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, as in meaning that your opinion that there is a problem that needs to be dealt with is not shared (currently) by the various managers involved. (...) Prosecute: no, I'm not conceding that, except as a consequence of the artist not bowing (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's a little hard to take this too seriously, but I'll try just for a moment of distraction... But first, let's make some things clear: 1. HD has terrible service 2. HD is usually very understaffed 3. HD is actually a dangerous place to shop (...) (21 years ago, 12-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Meaning that they're not doing their job... we have an endemic problem in the US with management tending to ignore the actual owners of the company, and this is just one more example, albeit minor. (...) Or prosecute. Which I think you're (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) She's responsible for her own actions. But that's just my view - see below. (...) If she delibrately broke her own foot, that would actually be fraud, not theft. If an accident, and a jury found the store in part responsible because it did not (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This seems to be your opinion more than the management of Home Depot, which seem to view it as a mild annoyance at the worst. (...) You are comparing a prosecutable crime with a non-crime. They are free to toss her from the store if they find (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've got a "What if?" She's stacking up these bricks without the store's OK to show off her artistic talents. One slips out of her hands as she's stacking and it is the last and highest placed. The brick then lands on her foot and breaks (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which someone has to clean up. That's a theft of labor (the cleanup) as well as stealing use of the materials (the pieces are not available for sale while she's "using" them) as well as hinderance of trade (while she's "sculpting", it's harder (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I fail to see where she steals anything in the store. She just rearranges the stock into interesting, if ephemral, shapes. Where's she appearing next? I'll even buy something in the store. :-) -->Everyone's an Art Critic<-- (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) ran across this from somewhere else) "since Nagorka generally goes to work in the aisles without prior permission from store officials" Except for the above, note how the story doesn't really even mention the fact that this "artist" (scare (...) (21 years ago, 11-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Except inasmuch as it would get her out of MI I am not seeing that as a good thing. IIANM, it's not legislation that is required, it would be a constitutional amendment. (the legislation would merely be the first step in getting the amendment (...) (21 years ago, 10-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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