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(...) Hmmm... Schwarzenegger taps George Shultz for economic council (URL) Still think it's only a local GOP thang? We do not live in interesting times -- frightening is more like it... I don't claim to know precisely what is happening, but it's (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Whoa. I don't have a problem with the powergrid I have a problem with the centralized generation. The solar panels that are illegal for me to use on my house, if used by everyone, would produce enough excess energy to power the cites. However (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Solar Panels? Domestic generators? (in abstract, "self-generated power"?) Back in the early days of electricity there was a powerplant in every block, at least in NYC; I believe that can be considered similar to what you advocate? Well, that (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) About half way through this post: (URL) subject of the centralized power grid comes up. (In the middle of the usual lunacy) -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just my 2c Altruism: Carpooling (with some non-car-owners too). Charity: Picking up a hitchhiker (now and then). Best DaveG (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Clinton? Bush? Who cares? In my opinion they are figureheads only. The democrat v republican game is also a mere sideshow. Real power is media-hidden in enterprises like Enron and the IMF: 1. You go on in. 2. Your paid for politicians hand you the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Would you care to ellaborate on that? I thought it was a liberalized market already. What exactly is the role of the Feds in the electrical business? And what/why should it happen different, in your POV? TIA, Pedro (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yet I can't help but wonder why the government covertly prevents the de-centralization of power generation. They have to maintain their control over the people I guess. -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It reminded me of "ALF": the cause for him being stranded on Earth was everyone turning on their hairdriers simultaneously - I wonder what too many air conditioning devices could do? ;-) Pedro (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Kind of odd. Everyone might want to check the news. They say it is not a terrorist attack. Aweful strange though. Isn't having a centralized power grid great. Idiot government regulations... -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But if you're saying paying 40k for a 1978 Pinto isn't charity, and that any exchange where both sides assign a "value" to the exchange, then altruism or charity can only happen when one side assigns no value whatsoever to the transaction, (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So I expect to never, ever hear the phrase "liberal media" out of you, right, since it sided with Bush? :-) "We all know that election laws don't matter when Democrats are on the losing side..." Okay, back that up. Give some examples. As to (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This may simply be a matter of our differing perspectives. If you are a uniquely qualified brain surgeon and you agree perform a highly complex operation for $5.00, then that particular operation is worth (in dollar terms) exactly $5.00. (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps I'm missing something here. Did Global Crossing deliberately overstate its outlook and earnings by billions of dollars, while defrauding its shareholders and employees, and did it also swindle California (greatly contributing to the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No. If you give me a roof to put over my head for a nite, that may well be worth a lot more than an hour's time picking up the parking lot is worth. (best I could do on short notice on the way back from BF was around 50-60 a nite but it's a (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, just like all those media recounts showed that Gore still lost. We all know that election laws don't matter when Democrats are on the losing side... Absolutely not. It is the job of the judiciary to evaluate the constitutionality of laws (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You may be correct about the no-fly zones being established by coalition forces, but they were a condition of the cease-fire, and violation of a cease-fire is more than sufficient reason to resume hostilities. The UN wouldn't enforce anything (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Judicial fiat is how we have Bush as president if that's the way you want to look at it, so I'm not sure what you point is when you try to use an example of a proposition that was doomed legally from the word go. What, the judiciary should (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) IIRC, the no-fly zones were established by the US and UK, so they are irrelevant to UN resolutions. For that matter, Dubya himself hampered the efforts of the UN to enforce its own resolutions when he made logically impossible demands upon (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) IMO, the only justification needed was this: Hussein was in continuing violation of the cease-fire that ended the first Gulf War, both through continuing activities in no-fly zones and hampering efforts of enforcement of the UN resolutions (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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