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  Who are the militia?
 
I'm not usually one of the link suppliers, but I thought this was interesting. (URL) (21 years ago, 22-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
 
(...) Well, here's this week's "Top 10 Conserviative Idiots" which would be more humourous if people weren't dieing due to the ineptness, lying and outright warmongering of your current administration... (URL) K (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
 
(URL) I literally laughed out loud in disbelief over this case. "A danger to Burglers"??? JOHN (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Further unravelling...
 
Of course, it goes against the context that Bush went on 'good intelligence' to justify the war when he *didn't* even consult the CIA... (URL) just what 'darn good intelligence' did Dubya go on? The Niger lies... THe 45 minute lies... The Unmanned (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unjust, unwise, unAmerican
 
(...) However, even trial in regular court isn't quite what it used to be... (URL) "If we don't get our way and deny the defendant his right to a fair trial in the normal system, we're just going to take him to Gitmo so we get our way anyway. And (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unjust, unwise, unAmerican
 
(...) side of the Taliban... er, he went to a Taliban training camp. Maybe. Put him in US court and try him, or remand him to Australia. This "Man without a country" schtick is pretty tiresome. (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unjust, unwise, unAmerican
 
(...) snip (...) Meanwhile David Hicks (and others) continue to be held without charge in Guantanamo Bay (URL) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Look who's rewriting history now
 
(...) I'm not an optimist, I'm just giving Bush the benefit of the doubt. He's pretty much sol on his own account though now... I still think though Saddam needed to be removed. There are plenty of hostile govts in need of removing, but might as (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Unjust, unwise, unAmerican
 
Jul 10th 2003 From The Economist print edition "America's plan to set up military commissions for the trials of terrorist suspects is a big mistake..." Here's the link to the rest of the story but it won't work, I don't think, unless you're a (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Look who's rewriting history now
 
You paying attention, Stefan? Your optimism and love of country is misplaced when it comes to the schmuck living in the White House. Look who's rewriting history now (URL) WASHINGTON -- While the world continues to parse President Bush's 16 little (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Oops. (...) Foreign agency? Never heard a terrorist group called that before (you learn something everyday indeed). I did forget about the military/civilian distinction though, so 9-11 is a much greater tragedy in that respect. -Stefan- (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Followup (was Re: Guerrilla Warfare etc.)
 
(...) Pentagon retaliates against GIs who spoke out on TV (URL) "It was the end of the world," said one officer Thursday. "It went all the way up to President Bush and back down again on top of us. At least six of us here will lose our careers." (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Wait'll Ashcroft gets hold of this!
 
(...) lawsuit for killing a person that was allergic to the medication you gave him. "Hey, the database said penicillin was okay. How were we to know he was extremely allergic to it?" -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Wait'll Ashcroft gets hold of this!
 
(URL) this takes hold within our borders, I suppose we can expect that anyone who chooses not to receive the chip will be aiding the terrorists. In other news: (URL)those who want to send a message to President Bush must now navigate as many (...) (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Best of Backpedalling-next on Fox!
 
(...) Actually, "we" have already been proven wrong. Rumsfeld pretty much guaranteed us that the WoMD were stockpiled in and around Tikrit and Baghdad, and these have been shown to be false. Honestly, this is the best part in my opinion: (...) Which (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) She! And if she hears you call her a he, she'll probably stomp your butt! (...) Fair enough. Let me re-characterize it as the worst tragedy inflicted on US soil by a foreign agency. We have yet to see how many lives are lost in its wake, and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Best of Backpedalling-next on Fox!
 
From the "this-guy's-a-moron" dept. (URL) won't be proven wrong," Bush said. "I believe that we will find the truth. And the truth is he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction." " The "truth" before the war-- "We know SH has WoMD, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
Hmm...Very well put. -Stefan- (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Newsbits: The Revenge!
 
A White House Smear (URL) Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Motive
 
That's right, I'm back! The frogman that never sleeps! Anyway, I saw this on Slashdot and couldn't help but be impressed (it's somewhere in there, down about two-thirds of the way from the bottom): (URL) But it seems we are heading into two (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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