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(...) side of the Taliban... er, he went to a Taliban training camp. Maybe. Put him in US court and try him, or remand him to Australia. This "Man without a country" schtick is pretty tiresome. (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) snip (...) Meanwhile David Hicks (and others) continue to be held without charge in Guantanamo Bay (URL) (21 years ago, 21-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not an optimist, I'm just giving Bush the benefit of the doubt. He's pretty much sol on his own account though now... I still think though Saddam needed to be removed. There are plenty of hostile govts in need of removing, but might as (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Jul 10th 2003 From The Economist print edition "America's plan to set up military commissions for the trials of terrorist suspects is a big mistake..." Here's the link to the rest of the story but it won't work, I don't think, unless you're a (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You paying attention, Stefan? Your optimism and love of country is misplaced when it comes to the schmuck living in the White House. Look who's rewriting history now (URL) WASHINGTON -- While the world continues to parse President Bush's 16 little (...) (21 years ago, 19-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oops. (...) Foreign agency? Never heard a terrorist group called that before (you learn something everyday indeed). I did forget about the military/civilian distinction though, so 9-11 is a much greater tragedy in that respect. -Stefan- (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pentagon retaliates against GIs who spoke out on TV (URL) "It was the end of the world," said one officer Thursday. "It went all the way up to President Bush and back down again on top of us. At least six of us here will lose our careers." (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) lawsuit for killing a person that was allergic to the medication you gave him. "Hey, the database said penicillin was okay. How were we to know he was extremely allergic to it?" -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) this takes hold within our borders, I suppose we can expect that anyone who chooses not to receive the chip will be aiding the terrorists. In other news: (URL)those who want to send a message to President Bush must now navigate as many (...) (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, "we" have already been proven wrong. Rumsfeld pretty much guaranteed us that the WoMD were stockpiled in and around Tikrit and Baghdad, and these have been shown to be false. Honestly, this is the best part in my opinion: (...) Which (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) She! And if she hears you call her a he, she'll probably stomp your butt! (...) Fair enough. Let me re-characterize it as the worst tragedy inflicted on US soil by a foreign agency. We have yet to see how many lives are lost in its wake, and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From the "this-guy's-a-moron" dept. (URL) won't be proven wrong," Bush said. "I believe that we will find the truth. And the truth is he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction." " The "truth" before the war-- "We know SH has WoMD, (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hmm...Very well put. -Stefan- (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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A White House Smear (URL) Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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That's right, I'm back! The frogman that never sleeps! Anyway, I saw this on Slashdot and couldn't help but be impressed (it's somewhere in there, down about two-thirds of the way from the bottom): (URL) But it seems we are heading into two (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Stefan Garcia wrote: ¦ The world has hated and distrusted Americans for a lot longer than 2 years. I disagree with you here. The world doesn't necessarily "hate" the US, and even the distrust you mention is not universal. (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let's talk about the plusses of socialism. Let's talk about the minuses of capitalism. Let's talk about the problems with Constitutionalism Let's talk about the 'best democracy that money can buy'. (...) Dave K (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, that's always been a bit confusing. Americans don't like others, the country is built on the backs of those "others" that came here...etc. (...) See above. Americans are xenophobic. Especially now. I could attribute that to the majority (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) LOL maybe we need lugnet.off-topic.rant...... ROSCO (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Glad to be here! :^p (...) It was necessary to protect the chain of command, remember. They didn't know if there'd be a follow-up attack of some sort. (...) The world has hated and distrusted Americans for a lot longer than 2 years. (...) You (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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