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(...) Really? I'd say a bunch of foreigners invading, terrorizing and running out the native population in the name of religion is pretty bad. Bulldozing those people's homes--pretty bad. Mortar attacks, helicopter gunship attacks, cluster bombs, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Every country in the U.N. Secruity Council has dirt under the nails, Syria is no better or worse. Actually, having Syria there is may at least "balance the ticket" in a way. Syria has also been the victim of Israeli occupation so obviously Israel (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Come now Dan. If OBL did do this. And some Palestinians do support him. I think saying some Palestinians *resent* America is putting it lightly. (...) Israel is bad Dan. Israel is very bad. They are not quite as bad as the Taliban. Although it (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped> It's all one big, ugly mess. However, it comes as no surprise to me that some Palestinians, after years of American supported Israeli occupation and brutality, would praise Bin Laden. It would be different if America WAS actually (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, Chris and I were talking about protecting *human rights*. You, in the text I quoted, are talking about protecting *your rights*. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jarring title. When you said PA, I thought you meant the Press Asscoation: (URL) will be interesting what sort of news comes out of Afghanistan in the coming days. With so little independent collaboration on the ground (less than there was in Iraq) (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That would be me. No inconsistency there. Because, after all the whole triage thing only applies to nations that are causing major threats to materialise. Unlike Somalia for example. (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From (URL) start - The Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) also tried to quell expressions of support for the Saudi exile accused of leading the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States. In Gaza City, police fired tear gas, wielded clubs (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. So who said this: ==+== I have never supported foreign intervention for any reason other than a selfish one, to wit, that it was the only way to defend our own citizens at home. ==+== Scott A (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip good ref material> My point exactly. They're just different thugs, not necessarily *better* thugs. If I had 4 choices: 1. do nothing and hope for the best. 2. politicoeconomic campaign that causes the Taliban to eventually fall (as the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps we owe them a little? (...) If you don't like a law you should work to change it, not ignore it. (...) How can we justify just looking at the easy problems? (...) I agree. (...) Should we not be ashamed that we have not helped before (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I expect there are Rolls Royce’s too. (...) What is your wealth based on then? The 'wealth' of native Americans? The slave trade? (...) If Saudi-Arabia were to democratically vote for a Government which is "bad" (as Israel already has) then (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They did offer to work with us more if we showed the some evidence - a smart move on their part. We refused. It should have went to the UN. Instead we have ignored international law (as I understand it) and bombed them. Let's all hope the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Read around Larry, they are little better. They are know to rape women in the towns they capture. More here: (URL) many Afghans are anxious to see an end to Taliban rule, they remain feaful about the prospect of a return of the Northern (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There are somewhere between 1.25 and 2.0 billion Muslims on the planet. I am lucky enough to know some of them. I read the sliver of text you quoted. I think about my experiences. I think about my understanding of Islam. Based on that alone I (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The latter. If something has been incorrectly subsidised in the past the solution is not to jack up the subsidies of everything else you can find that remotely competes with it. Highways and airtransport have been unfairly subsidised in the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm NOT sure, hence I asked. My hunch is that you can go rooting through the New Testament, or especially the Old Testament, and find similar passages. My hunch is that you can go through the Koran or OT or NT and find very peaceful passages (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you have the right to pollute by means of an automobile? :) Scott A (A Car owning cyclist) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, we do have the right to travel by modern conveyance -- a right recognized under common law since the time of Magna Carta. Applying this argument to the a.k.a. "driving privilege" is not too complicated -- getting the courts to (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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