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(...) Yes indeed. Another way to approach it is to point out that we (life in general) weren't running around looking for a universe to populate and were lucky enough to find this one; we (again, life in general) arose within this universe because (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi all, There is a set of biblical questions that were written by someone and have been around the net a bit. They were written as a smart-assed foil for Christian belief. But surprisingly I haven't seen serious answers. So I'm reposting them below (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
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(...) You're not getting it. Maybe there were 10^37 (or whatever) universal incarnations that had nothing like us occur. That's fine. You're arguing that a probability that doesn't actually have any bearing on our likelihood, does. I'm sorry, but (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Stupid Tales of Misplaced Zeal
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(...) A crime is a criminal act regardless of who committed it, or their reason for doing such. There is no distinction between crime spurned by hate or crime spurned by love. Hate Crimes, I imagaine, is a term created by the media to dramatise an (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Origins Debate
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(...) Spot on. I have no beef with religion or any other dogma except when it obstructs progress. (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Origins Debate
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(...) Yeh, well, it's never for me so much as for the spectators. :D (...) My only search for common ground is to get the agreement that yes, belief in religion is a matter of faith and is therefore unprovable positively *or* negatively. My aim, if (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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(...) Sorry, that's not recorded history. It's a literary chronicle--"history" as we know it today was part of the Greco-Roman tradition, not the Judaeo-Christian one. That, and the synoptic gospels have significant problems innate to their (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, if God created everything, God created evil--at least, the capacity for it. Are you implying there are limits to the power of God? Also, good and evil are subjective concepts, arrived at by consensus--though in dogmatic (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: The Origins Debate
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(...) <snip> Excellent refutation. If Ian had been doing his homework reading what has been said here before maybe he wouldn't be posting essentially the same tired stuff all over again that we've all already heard. If people want to take comfort in (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | The Origins Debate
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(...) It's not nearly so cranky as many of the others, but it's still largely based on anti-logic. Why can't it be the Hindu gods? Or why can't the Hare Krishnas be right? (...) But the physical state of the universe was quite different. We're in a (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you had been spending time reviewing past debates here you'd see that this question has been dealt with before. (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
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(...) God reserves the right to engineer events, but He makes sure to allow us to maintain our free will. Anyway it's God's universe; He can do what He wants with it. (...) You have that choice. The tree of knowledge was placed in the Garden of Eden (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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I neglected to respond to this... (...) God did not create evil. Evil is indeed the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and centrifugal force is the absence of centripetal force. --Ian (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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(...) Okay. But this is what I say about the faith issue: God wants us to follow Him by faith. If you have absolute proof, you remove the faith option. (...) Okay. But the universe had to be initiated by something, and if it wasn't God, what was it? (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See (URL) for a start. Incidentally, Jesus was God in the flesh, and we have the recorded history right in the Bible. <snip> (...) Possibly so. But then the hijackers would be making the accusations. God loves even them so much that He does (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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(...) Refer to the post I just put up: (URL) There is more, if you're interested. (...) You'll get your wish, eventually. When we die, we all face God. And at the end of the age, God will descend from Heaven in glory to set up His kingdom on earth. (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
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(...) So, here's how I like to see it. If God started everything off, what if He let it play out - what if He wasn't sticking His oar in every five minutes? What if we really do have free will, for a start? Who wants to live in a universe where you (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Stupid Tales of Misplaced Zeal
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(...) Well, yes, you're right about that. Hearing about hate crimes just leaves me sooo frustrated - among other feelings. Julie (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Does God Exist? (was Re: Mercy? (was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer))
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(...) Oh dear. Let me start over. God is good, and there is no evil or sin in him. God created everything, so therefore everything reflects God's goodness in some way. People doing good things don't do it because of their innate goodness; they (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's childish. I could summarise your position as "lets kill lots of people somewhere far away - that'll make everything better", but that would be equally insulting. I certainly don't recommend the US try to march in everywhere to 'right (...) (23 years ago, 17-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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