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I have reconsidered, and I conclude that I feel I need to say more. I rarely have a chance to debate religion, as I come from a large Catholic family, and I'm the only one who doesn't attend church, and no one will talk about religion around me, (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP statement on terrorist attacks
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(...) I'm not sure either, but I don't think he has any credibility in claiming that he's just as Libertarian (capital L) as ever; if he were, he surely wouldn't have joined the GOP. It's analogous to a certain former GOP member who's now (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When you make that non-falsifiable assertion, you are presumably implying that We Cannot Know His Ineffable Plan, and therefore we must assume that everything will work out for Good. However, if We Cannot Know His Plan, then we certainly can't (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Mercy? (Was Re: My Prayer on this National Day of Prayer)
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(...) You're welcome. (...) Sorry, I tried to cram too much information into too few words :). I meant to say that if God had prevented the attack, we wouldn't have appreciated its sheer horrific magnitude, since we wouldn't have lived through it. (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Coming together to help those affected by the attack is a good thing. It fosters a humble, generous spirit. (...) The response would probably not have been as dramatic or as widespread. Sometimes it takes a shattering tragedy to shock people (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You forget that the World Trade Center has a capacity of 50,000. For whatever reason - they were not at work yet, they were able to evacuate, or they were rescued - 45,000 people were not killed. (...) Mercy in a different sense. If the plane (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thank you for explaining in further detail that statement. Although I'm not sure what you mean by "We wouldn't have the perspective of knowing what came next. The accusation might potentially arise because people would not know the true magnitude of (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But God may have another reason. He may want to use these tragedies to cause people to search for Him. He may also want to warn America against future possible terrorist attacks, which may be even worse than this was. If we are alerted to this (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We wouldn't have the perspective of knowing what came next. The accusation might potentially arise because people would not know the true magnitude of what was prevented. (...) God is not always obvious about how He intervenes. The evidence we (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. However, when at war you can not check the beliefs and thoughts of every soldier you bomb. The same is true for the citizens of the enemy country that can be harmed by your actions. There are times in which killing a few innocent (...) (23 years ago, 16-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is why I have always thought that the worst part of the LP platform was its unrealistic foreign policy plank. The problem isn't that we have been meddling too much in other countries' affairs, it's that we haven't done enough. If we had (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Response to Misinformation (Some other perspectives on the tragedy)
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(...) I can see the argument. But... No matter what? What is the alternative, though? Property belongs to whoever has the bigger gun? (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, how about the fact that Ron Paul, former LP candidate for president, is once again in the GOP and is once again a representative from Texas? If you ask him I suspect he'll tell you he is just as Libertarian as ever and gives just as much (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> The only laugh I've enjoyed this week: (URL) Rudy www.geocities.com/TJJohn12 (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Response to Misinformation (Some other perspectives on the tragedy)
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(...) [snip] (...) From whence does the 'legitimate ownership' of property arise? I say there is no such thing. Chris (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is what the Romans did to Israel. So which claim is legitimate then? Israel's or the Palestinians? (...) From the governed, do they not? Either by consent or by conceding. At any rate, the governed allow what becomes. (...) But what would (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Scott Arthur not welcome?
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(...) sufficient to make that post or class of posts "not welcome" then every single post you make is "not welcome" because there are people saying that very thing about your posts. That's taking your argument to its logical extreme. Further, you (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In all seriousness, this is news to me. I admit that the LP's views are sometimes in line with what actually comes to pass (just as my views are sometimes also in line), but I wasn't aware of any direct influence. Can you give a cite? Dave! (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I am still "done" but I spotted a bit of poor wording... fixing it: (...) "that is a majority opinion" refers to the notion of supporting the president no matter what is decided. I don't think nuking is likely to be a majority opinion, (knock on (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a far different statement than your previous and I welcome your expressing your opinion. But calling it pandering is a smear. (...) "Crisis" unless we have several concurrent ones (which I guess you could say we do). I have already (...) (23 years ago, 15-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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