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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Fwoosh - that's way too much to wade through. I found another site that condensed it more to the essentials. 10 states prohibit the sale of fully-automatic weapons (machine-guns) entirely. The rest may or may not have some retrictions, and (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: *Child* Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Please note that I was specifically _not_ interested in the gun related deaths as seperate from other murders. Violent deaths is what I'm interested in, not the weapon of choice. Chris (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I don't know what their process is like, but I think that long arms must be allowed because it seems they have a plague of dangerous foxes that must be wiped out at all costs. If I understand the deal, you just can't have handguns. Chris (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) position. You're raving. The Weavers didn't hold off the agents for any real time, and at Mt.Carmel, they didn't storm the Branch Davidians because they didn't want to die. If your logic were correct, then why did they decide to assault the (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I'm interested in what requirments must be met before I could buy a firearm in your country. (hypothetically speaking) Let alone what I would have to do to "properly" store such a weapon. This also does not take into account the fact that the (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I forget - I think it's illegal. Or was (I noted a more up to date response on the laws a few messages back). Bruce (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Not the details, but the general idea. (...) Probably not. But I'm not sure that it is a significant difference in the context of protection of freedoms. It is certainly significant from the POV of the potential politician. (...) I just don't (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) You must have a heart of stone Chris. Scott A (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) So? Chris (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: *Child* Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) I expect I am correct~ish. Child deaths are rare enough (thankfully) to normally be national news in the UK. I child that was killed buy a gun would be news without a doubt. The last one I can remember was a teenager shot as a burglar 3 or 4 (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) There are rules are regulations which must be met before a gun can be owned. 100% of those wanting to own a gun have there storage provision checked. A medical certificate is also required. Once one has a gun, I am not sure what checks are (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) The police could not move in on Randy whats-his-name for weeks/months as there were children were there - that is why they held off. Likewise with Waco, if no children were there, I think the "Feds" would have moved much sooner. Just like (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Don't be shocked Larry, just read your own words: "Ignore it, interpret it in direct conflict with what the founders intended(1)?" Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Why. Because the gun lobby is too strong? Because the gun lobby pays too much money to your politicians? (...) You are a slave to your intransigent views! :) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Oops Do you think they could conceive how powerful democracy would become. How everyone (more or less) would be able to vote? Or do you think they had events like the French revolution in mind? Scott A (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) From a UK perspective, I see nothing wrong with laws slowly changing to mirror changes in society. In the US it would be very hard to ban guns overnight. They way to remove the risk caused by guns to Joe Public is to slowly tighten access to (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Do you think they really could understand how it could work out? How modern media makes politicians almost instantly accountable? How in transparent systems, like the UK, those funding politicians would be dragged out into the open? You will (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Perhaps they are only being honest with themselves. They are far more likely to use their gun in self-defence against a perceived criminal than they are to use it against state tyranny. I expect most guns are bought in the US as a fashion (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) What is yours? (...) Oh. I see. (...) Does that make it OK? What does that have to do with your point? (...) It is still far too high in my opinion. (...) Not quite, but I will let it ride. (...) Read what Chris said. Read my reply. Think (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) You can negotiate tight situations, like twisty narrow hallways better with such a weapon. Why not? Chris (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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