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Subject: 
Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:14:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

Is democracy unconstitutional?

It could be.  Democracy doesn't depend on a constitution per se.  However, the
US has a constitution that is supposed to be the prime law of the land.  All
other rules are subordinate and inferior to the constitution and rules that
conflict with the constitution are invalid.

Because they tackled people in Waco or Ruby ridge who were willing to use
children as a human shield... just like Saddam did?

You aren't describing the situation in either case.

I am. That is what happened in all 3 places.

No.  The Branch Davidians arranged with their tormentors to have the children
escape.  Ruby Ridge was too quick to arrange for such, and at least one of the
kids was critically involved, having personally shot federal agents.

The police could not move in on Randy whats-his-name for weeks/months as
there were children were there - that is why they held off. Likewise with
Waco, if no children were there, I think the "Feds" would have moved much
sooner. Just like Saddam, both these groups used kids to protect their position.

Scott A

I'm not
even sure how you mean that children were used as human shields in either case.

Chris



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(...) position. You're raving. The Weavers didn't hold off the agents for any real time, and at Mt.Carmel, they didn't storm the Branch Davidians because they didn't want to die. If your logic were correct, then why did they decide to assault the (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) It could be. Democracy doesn't depend on a constitution per se. However, the US has a constitution that is supposed to be the prime law of the land. All other rules are subordinate and inferior to the constitution and rules that conflict with (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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