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  Groan of the week #27 (one for the pirates!)
 
A pirate captain was on the look out for buried treasure. After months of hard sailing, day in and day out, his ship caught site of land, the land to which his treasure map had been leading. He and his first mate diembarked on the island to search (...) (22 years ago, 7-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.pun)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) I remember in January '86 when the shuttle blew up--the news preempted all the soaps for the afternoon to cover the terrible accident. Then the tv stations received many nasty letters and phone calls from irate viewers who were angry that they (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Stackers Review (Was Re: Stackers)
 
(...) Hmmm, my pair from a 2-pack fell apart rather easily into six pieces each (four clear walls, top and bottom "brick"). In fact I couldn't get it to stay together easily or reliably. I pretty much categorized them as junk and have come close to (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) Certainly advertising is by nature propagandist. There seems like a critical difference between a piece of fiction that is written solely to entertain and one that is written with underlying political/religious/...l/whatever messages that are (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) I think the bigger question is: What isn't propagandized? Isn't all advertising propaganda? Isn't every book propaganda? Every medium's main purpose is to promote its ideas. Isn't the very promotion of ideas propaganda? (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) TV (...) silly. (...) I agree. But also believing that what you see on a soap is litterally true...so much so that you write in to the fictional characters is pretty extreme. I'm sure that lots of (all?) people are successfully propagandized (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) Arguing the validity of the words of a (...) BTW, you didn't ask, but the main reason that I dont't post more to debate is that most of these debates end up spending most of their life argueing over the validity or quotes, sources, statements, (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) Exactly. (...) So what medium isn't spewing propaganda? (...) It would be interesting to see the ratio of those letters received to viewers. IS it 1%, 10%. I don;t think it would be very high at all. (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) "flyby." (...) Well, that's sort of technically true, but at the same time, the thread wouldn't have started without the context that leads to it. In that way, it is a continuation of more than one other thread in which TWW was cited. So I (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: debates (was: John Leo's opinion of "The West Wing")
 
(...) Actually, if I may clarify--this was a new debate about TWW and the validity of using cites from the show--Larry pointed out that in his opinion, any cite from TWW will carry no water with him. That was this particular debate drew in issues (...) (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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