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Re: DEMAG crane
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Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:22:24 GMT
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Sometimes I also deviate from my scale. When I build a model it occurs that
e.g. the front overhang doesn’t look well when I build it on scale. Than I
make it 1 stud longer. The same concerns axle distances. But mostimes I try
to build everything on scale. It’s not always possible, like when you
doesn’t have sufficient reference like chassis drawings.
When I build the AK850, it will be on scale 1:15,6. The width will be 24
studs than and that’s 3000 mm wide in real life. The main reason I don’t
build cranes and trucks wider than 24 studs is that two 12R technic axles
are also 24 studs in width. That’s easier to construct when you’ve double
wheels on the back axles. Scale 1:13 is my scale for trucks since ’91 and I
don’t deviate from that. OK, when I build a 1:15,6 mobile crane I will build
some carriers (trucks) on the same scale. I think I will use the Black Cat
wheels than. I have 24 of them, so enough to build two heavy tractors. For a
6-axle ballast trailer I can use the 20x30 wheels.
Now I’m getting more and more reference, I’m still thinking to build the
AK850. A few weeks ago I received a small drawing with the axle distances.
Now I’m looking for the dimensions of the superstructure. Maybe I can find
some info via the HHCMC (Heavy Haulage & Crane Model Club).
For the 10-axle crane carrier I will use 20 wheels (24x43). The chassis will
be 1.4 meter in length. I’m not sure if it fits in the car I just bought. If
not, I really have to build another crane. Maybe a third LG1550? A red one
which is better than the second edition? (the one on my website). I still is
my favorite crane.
Jennifer, you DEMAG AC50 is a very fine model. I saw it a few weeks ago and
I first thought is was a 1:1 model. Well done! That’s nice idea, the
telescopic boom. I will keep it in my mind when I build a similar crane in
the (near) future. The driver’s cab is well shaped. Never thought about
those hoses, nice! The advantage of your scale is that you can use those
Technic figures. For my models they are far too small and that’s a pitty. I
haven’t red all the text yet, but I will sure do (too busy …. ).
Thomas, do you have plans to build a crane? Once you said you’re going to
build an off-shore crane. Will it be such a crane? I only have seen one guy
who build one, but that wasn’t a great model. He only built the crane
itself, so without the vessel. I think the vessel is one of the main parts
of the crane, but the constructor probably had some other thoughts.
Cranes are always great, especially of LEGO. Hopefully I will see some
during the Modelshow coming month. One of my friends is building two cranes:
a Liebherr LGD1800 (space lifter) and an AK850. It’s only a shame that he
has lack of time for his hobbies. He building for about four year already!!
Both cranes are Black Cat wheel based, so there on scale 1:18. I think he
will need a few years to finish them …. 
The DEMAG CC12600 is making sligthly progress as well. Ron had plans to
build a main boom for the modelshow but as he’s building 1:24 models first,
he put the project aside for some months. He will continue next month.
Well, I wish you all lots of success with building your crane models and let
anybody know where you’ve some crane news.
Dennis
In lugnet.modelteam, Jennifer Clark writes:
> In lugnet.modelteam, Beat Felber writes:
> >
> > Based on the 26 studs which are 3.0 meters in reality, I calculated the
> > other dimensions, with a scale of 1 to 14.4. This means that the wheels are
> > just about 90% of the size they should have, but this results in some
> > advantages. A Lego model needs more space for the wheels to realize a
> > steering mechanism because the turning axle is not within the wheel but
> > quite a bit outside. This results in a bigger area, a wheel is moving on
> > during steering.
>
> Great minds think alike (or fools seldom differ? :-)
>
> I had very similar thoughts when building the latest crane, and indeed it is
> slightly wider than it should be too. I'm not at all averse to fudging the
> dimensions in this manner as long as the result looks ok, and to be honest I
> think it looks better a little wider.
>
> Sometimes I find that copying the dimensions exactly leads to an odd looking
> model, and I actually have to exaggerate or underplay a dimension to make
> the model look "right". I think this has to do with the fact that with lego
> you are often making a caricature rather than a true representation, at
> least at 1:20 scale anyway.
>
> Jennifer
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| (...) Perhaps in the future I'll go for an offshore crane. Right now I'm focusing on a more transportable model; something I can take to Brickfest, should I go. Mammoet's MSG 50 is quite nice, but I don't have any details except for a few poor (...) (23 years ago, 20-Mar-02, to lugnet.modelteam)
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| (...) Great minds think alike (or fools seldom differ? :-) I had very similar thoughts when building the latest crane, and indeed it is slightly wider than it should be too. I'm not at all averse to fudging the dimensions in this manner as long as (...) (23 years ago, 18-Mar-02, to lugnet.modelteam)
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