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Re: FA(eBay): blue hoppers
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lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory
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Date: 
Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:17:59 GMT
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LPIENIAZEK@NOVERAstopspammers.COM
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R2 wrote:
> 
> For someone so critical of e-bay sellers, you certainly have no room to
> complain and leave neutral feedback. If someone outright lies about what
> they are selling (saying something's rare), I have no problem with calling
> them on it. I have frequently e-mailed the seller. However, if someone lists
> something and does not lie or mislead, leaving feedback telling others where
> to get it cheaper is, in my opinion, unethical.

Let's take this up in theory but I feel there is a significant
difference in kind, not just degree, between:

- claiming that something is scarce/rare when in fact it is not, and
selling it for well over what anyone who wants it can get it for. (what
the McD sellers are doing)

- making a planned large purchase of something that is indeed scarce and
then selling it for what the market will bear. (what I am doing)

> Neither you with the hopper cars, or the person who is not revealing the
> source of any item on e-bay, is doing anything "wrong".

I disagree. The latter person is trying to make the market inefficient.
I am trying to make it more efficient by arbitrage.

> However, for you to
> complain about them is a bit, in my opinion, wrong.

Let me hasten to point out:  eBay has explicitly said it is a violation
of their TOS, I have appealed it, and been denied. Therefor, for me to
continue to post neutral feedback is wrong *because it violates their
TOS*, even though it would otherwise be morally justifiable. So I have
stopped. Otherwise lawful contracts are sancrosanct.

I will continue to complain about their policy here, and whereever I
can, though.

--
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  Re: FA(eBay): blue hoppers
 
(...) Where a finite supply of the set exists. Buying a considerable proportion of that item makes them rarer, and therefore forces the price up. So buy making a the "large purchase" the market value of the item is increased. I suppose the word (...) (27 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
  Re: FA(eBay): blue hoppers
 
(...) Where a finite supply of the set exists. Buying a considerable proportion of that item makes them rarer, and therefore forces the price up. So buy making a the "large purchase" the market value of the item is increased. I suppose the word (...) (27 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)

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  Re: FA(eBay): blue hoppers
 
(...) Oh, I realize this! I don't mind that you or someone else makes money on any purchase. Anything that I can find cheap and do not want, I like to make a few dollars to support my habit (and my son's growing habit). I also try to notify people (...) (27 years ago, 11-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)

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