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Re: LEGO section starting on Compuserve
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Date: 
Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:30:19 GMT
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   The Compuserve copyright rules and regulations explicitly state that owners
of material uploaded to Compuserve retain ownership and rights.  Compuserve
gains only a compilation copyright.

  Here is the relevent document:

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CompuServe's Copyright Rules And Regulations

The CompuServe Information Service provides access to more than
1700 products covering thousands of subject areas to our members
worldwide.

Material offered on the CompuServe Information Service
originates with a wide variety of sources, ranging from creative
public domain software programs uploaded by members to
multi-faceted databases provided by large corporations.

The following information will address some commonly-asked
questions about copyright and ownership of material,
particularly as it relates to public domain information and
shareware programs.

WHAT IS COMPILATION COPYRIGHT?

CompuServe has copyrighted the contents of the CompuServe
Information Service as a compilation copyright, just as many
magazines and newspapers reserve such a copyright on the
contents of their publications. This copyright is held in
accordance with the 1976 Copyright Act of the United States.

A compilation copyright is granted when an organization collects
information in a lawful way, adds value to it, and offers it to
others. In this case, the CompuServe Information Service is a
value-added product; CompuServe Incorporated has committed
substantial financial resources to collecting more than 1700
areas on the service and offering them in an organized,
structured way to a defined user base through a nationwide
telecommunication network. The compilation copyright is intended
to protect that substantial investment from unauthorized
exploitation. This does NOT mean that CompuServe assumes
ownership of individual programs and databases provided to the
system by members or information providers.

WHAT IS COMPUSERVE'S STANCE TOWARD COPYRIGHTED, PUBLIC DOMAIN,
AND SHAREWARE PROGRAMS?

Each of these types of property have special characteristics,
and deserves separate explanation:

COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL

CompuServe does not allow copyrighted material to be placed on
the CompuServe Information Service without the author's
permission. Only the owner(s) or persons they specifically
authorize may upload copyrighted material to the Service.

Any member may download copyrighted material for their own use.
Any  member may also non-commercially redistribute a copyrighted
program with the expressed permission of the owner or authorized
person. Permission must be specified in the document, on the
Service, or must be obtained directly from the author. See below
for more information about redistribution guidelines.

PUBLIC DOMAIN

Any member may upload public domain programs to the Service. Any
member may download public domain programs for their own use or
non-commercially redistribute a public domain program. See below
and for more information about redistribution guidelines.

SHAREWARE

Only the owner or an authorized person may upload shareware
programs. Any member may download shareware programs for their
own use, subject to the terms provided by the owner. Any member
may non-commercially redistribute a shareware program subject to
the provided terms explicitly displayed in the software itself,
or with permission of the owner or authorized person. See below
for more information about redistribution guidelines.

IF I UPLOAD A SOFTWARE PROGRAM I'VE DEVELOPED TO COMPUSERVE, DO
I STILL RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PROGRAM?

Yes, you do. CompuServe's compilation copyright does NOT
supersede individual ownership rights or copyrights to any of
the material furnished to the Service by members or information
providers.

For example, a member who creates a public domain program and
uploads it to a CompuServe forum data library STILL OWNS that
program, and may upload it to other information services and
bulletin board systems.

It should be noted, however, that CompuServe cannot grant any
redistribution rights for materials copyrighted by the author,
unless specifically authorized to do so, CompuServe does not
own the material or the copyright. These rights must be obtained
directly from the author.

AS A COMPUSERVE MEMBER, CAN I DOWNLOAD PUBLIC DOMAIN INFORMATION
AND SHAREWARE PROGRAMS FOR MY OWN USE FROM COMPUSERVE FORUM DATA
LIBRARIES?

Yes, you can. Public domain information and shareware programs
are uploaded to CompuServe data libraries by their authors for
use by other CompuServe members.


IF I SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE COPYRIGHTED FILES IN THE LIBRARIES,
WHAT SHOULD I DO?

CompuServe cannot give legal advise with regard to what is and is
not copyrighted materials. Copyrighted materials may include not
only textual materials, but also graphics images, music, video
and any other intellectual property. If there is any question,
please check with the owner or authorized person(s) of the
copyrighted material.

DOWNLOADING PROGRAMS FROM COMPUSERVE FORUM DATA LIBRARIES AND
SHARING THEM WITH A FRIEND, OR UPLOADING THEM TO ANOTHER BULLETIN
BOARD SYSTEM:

In keeping with the spirit of the development of public domain
information and shareware, it is not CompuServe's current policy
to prevent casual redistribution of this type of information --
this is low volume and low frequency use or redistribution of
information where no commercialism is involved. This means that a
member may download a file and share it with others for no
commercial gain -- either via a bulletin board service, diskette,
or other means.

A member may not, however, download a large number of files
for redistribution via any means, nor is it acceptable for a
member to update another bulletin board regularly with files
obtained from CompuServe.

It's important to note that CompuServe cannot grant
redistribution rights for programs clearly copyrighted by the
author, unless specifically authorized to do so. Such permission
must be obtained directly from the author of the program.

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   I hope this adequately answers anyones concerns.

   Now, if anyone can make any additional suggestions for useful core files
and/or grant me permission to upload said files to Compuserve you would be
helping me expand the online LEGO community to large numbers of users who
otherwise would not participate in an online LEGO community.

Brian

In lugnet.general, Tamyra Teed writes:
First off, I know this used to be true, and it may not be anymore... I
don't know for sure... Make sure that any files you upload to Compuserve
do NOT become their property.. there used to be some services that took
this liberty with other peoples work... So I'm always a little leary of
the larger ISP's like that...
not that anyone here holds "copyright" on the faq or acronym list...
that's the way it should stay..

If someone knows that this isn't true anymore please let me know :)

Tamy


"Brian H. Nielsen" wrote:

   In a moment of insanity I agreed to anchor a LEGO section on Compuserve.
It's starting from ground zero and I need advice on what reference files • would
make a good initial core for the library there.  I don't want to try and put
up masses of information which is already very well organized here on the • Web,
just a solid core of useful stuff for which I can obtain permission from the
current owners of to upload to Compuserve.

   I'm thinking of things like a FAQ, an acronym list, a comprehensive set
list, and contact info for LEGO S@H.  What other things would people • recommend
to round out the list?  For things like set pictures, instructions,
inventories, and such I just want to refer people out to the great Web • sites.
Over time the core library can be augmented based on the interests of the
section members.  (If an owner of any desirable core files reads this and • can
reply to give me permission to upload it to Compuserve I would appreciate • it!)

   The section will be mostly geared toward general discussion of LEGO and
whatever aspect of LEGO that the section members want to discuss and share.
These will most likely be people who don't frequent the Web, so it should be
helpful in expanding the LEGO community to those who otherwise would not be
part of the online LEGO community.  I expect that any who decide to come out
to visit Web references will gravitate to LUGNET, so in that respect the
Compuserve LEGO section will be acting as a gateway for people to find the
large LEGO community on the Web.

   Thanks in advance for any input.

Brian

--
Keep on Bricken'
-Tamy

Follow the bouncing boxes!
http://home.att.net/~mookie1/jambalaya.html

http://home.att.net/~mookie1/
http://mookie.iwarp.com/   (mirror site)
Lego isn't a toy, it's a way of life!



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(...) Wow. Does this mean that there are people who have Compuserve access but who don't have general Internet access? --Todd (25 years ago, 19-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: LEGO section starting on Compuserve
 
First off, I know this used to be true, and it may not be anymore... I don't know for sure... Make sure that any files you upload to Compuserve do NOT become their property.. there used to be some services that took this liberty with other peoples (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)

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