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Re: windows (strange colored )
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lugnet.general
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Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:47:59 GMT
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Paul Baulch wrote:
> Gary Istok wrote in message <378A2621.B7334F69@umich.edu>...
> > Larry, You are indeed correct!
> >
> > I can't imagine anyone wanting to sell those 10 grey windows. They are a
> > part of that Intercity Train set. Since Paul is new to the group, we
> > certainly don't want to take advantage of that fact (unless he was well
> > compensated). But I'll bet that they would certainly command a premium on
> > Auczilla or eBay, especially if you Lego Train folks are involved.
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> I have been following this thread with great interest, and at this point I
> feel moved to give my views on the pieces I am trading (and on rare pieces
> in general). I'm not responding specifically to Gary, just anyone who's
> following this thread. I won't divulge any details of the trade, as I guess
> that might be rude (I've only been here a week). I would like to point out,
> though, that the number of parties who showed interest was a lot smaller
> than the impression this thread would seem to give, and that I feel (so far)
> that I am being well compensated.
>
> Firstly, I would like to point out that if at any point I stated or even
> implied that the set was _complete_, it was a mistake. There's no box, no
> instructions, missing stickers and missing/possibly broken pieces
> (presumably there is no harm in talking about the set because it's only the
> windows for trade here). When I have kids in the future, I would like them
> to have a train set and I assume that I wouldn't be able to trade the set
> (as is) for an amount of Lego Train gear of greater quantity and/or quality.
>
> It's also a matter of aesthetic compromise. I refuse to trade, for
> instance, the yellow corner slopes on the 7740 locomotive's roof, as that
> would severely compromise the train's looks; however, I feel that my kids
> will be quite happy (as I would) substituting other windows/bricks for the
> grey windows, and that the look of the train would still be good, and I
> would explain to them that those windows have allowed someone else to make
> many wonderful things, and have allowed me & my kids to make more wonderful
> things as well.
>
> And don't forget that my values are not necessarily the same as everyone
> else's when it comes to Lego. I don't particularly want to bleed the trade
> for every little thing that I can, I feel that that's greedy, and greedy is
> _not_ nice. If it turns out that I could have got a little more for my
> windows, then anyone who feels a little envious/amused/incredulous has
> perhaps not thought enough about how much enjoyment I'll gain from the
> pieces I'm trading for (and the enjoyment I hope the recipient gets from
> their windows). True, most of you don't need to hear me preaching like this,
> but I must say that sometimes all this talk of rare pieces sounds too
> materialistic at times. Lego pieces are just bits of coloured plastic with
> which you can build whatever wonderful things take your fancy. Hmm,
> evidently they're quite materialistic enough already :)
>
> > And besides, there's not much else to do with those grey windows (besides
> > train use), since there are so few other grey windows available (mostly
> > 1x4x5 and 1x4x6 - 3 pane). I'm not sure, but were there ever any grey • doors
> > made? Definetely not the 1x2x3 nor the 1x3x4 doors.
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> Not having much else to use the grey windows for was part of the reason I
> decided to give them up. I don't particularly like the old-style windows
> myself.
>
> > But us old time Town folks have always "cast a covetous glance" at some of
> > the Lego pieces that are unique to the Train system, such as the small • grey,
> > black and yellow windows from the 1970's and 1980's Train sets.
>
> I'll always feel sad about the fantastic Pirate Ships and Model Team trucks
> that came and went during my Lego Dark Age. *sigh* At least they still
> _make_ Trains, even if they aren't as good as they used to be....
>
> Paul
> "LEG GODT!"
Hey Paul, I can't argue with most of what you said...... except about not caring
for the old classic windows ..... how can you not like them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Just kindding).
Actually I loooooove those old style windows & doors, and have been cornering
the market on them for the past 20 years (heh-heh). Just check out my website
(actually it's space on Larry's website), and you'll see why the classic windows
are my mainstay (and also why I always stay on Larry's good side (heh-heh)):
http://members.xoom.com/lpien/gistok_xoom.html
And another thing, I don't begrudge anyone for breaking up a valuable set. No
one is more guilty of that than I. I've broken up London Buses, Yellow Castles,
Main Street, Eldorado Fortress, etc.
And also, you mentioned the talk of rare pieces as sounding materialistic and
greedy. Well I do have to disagree with you on that point (a friendly
disagreement - as everything on this newsgroup remains friendly). The intention
here is only to educate the AFOL's, not to sound greedy. I have purchased many
thousands of Lego windows over the last 20 years. This discussion educates the
LUGNET/RTL readers as to what is rare (and thus valuable) in their collections.
Regular bricks are on the low end of the proverbial "totem pole" for value, as
far as LEGO bricks go. Windows and doors (highly prized, due to the unfortunate
scarcity of them in most Lego sets) are near the top, and my intention is to
help people to make educated decisions on what they want to sell and what they
should expect a premium on.
Unlike many collectibles/toys, LEGO has no price guide - and a large group of
AFOLs want to keep it that way, since it could ruin the hobby. So there are a
few of us that share our years of knowledge with others. And since people like
Larry and I are always willing to buy windows, we don't want other AFOLs to say
that we ripped them off unknowingly.
Gary Istok
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| Gary Istok wrote in message <378A2621.B7334F69@u...ch.edu>... (...) I have been following this thread with great interest, and at this point I feel moved to give my views on the pieces I am trading (and on rare pieces in general). I'm not (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jul-99, to lugnet.general)
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