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Re: Selling someone else's work on Ebay
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lugnet.general
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Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:37:42 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Corey Sanders wrote:
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Out of curiousity, a couple times a month I search Ebay, looking for people
selling LEGO creations of mine. Sadly, I often come across one or two a
month. These people either claim it as their own, or make no mention that
they copied the instructions from my website. If I wanted to, I could make
them and sell them to make money. That’s not the point, it’s the principle
of the thing... copying someone else’s work and representing it as their own.
This month, a particularly irritating one came up on Ebay. Some one is
selling the Globe I created instructions for:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=40018
As you can see from the folder, many people have used my instructions to
create a Globe of their own. That’s why I did all that work in the first
place. I could’ve just created mine and no more but I did a LOT of work and
created instructions. I did this to make my own contribution to the AFOL
community.
Here’s the irritating auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1186&item=5963673227
Please compare this person’s pictures to the pictures in my Globe folder. Do
you see any similarities? To my eyes, it is an exact duplicate. I emailed
the seller and got this response: “First of all, your methodology for
assuming it is your work seems a bit hasty. For instance, many different DVD
players are on the market, but they weren’t all designed by the same person.”
Later, he says, “If you have evidence that my work is yours and you can
proove some type of copyright infringement, have your lawyer serve papers to
that effect. You will also incur any of my legal fees if your case is lost.”
Things go downhill from there. I had emailed the seller to ask that he add
information to the auction, that it was my creation and to post my website.
I have got nothing but rude emails and long explanations about how it is a
coincidence that his globe looks like mine. The most irritating thing about
this, is that this isn’t just a nobody copying my work, as is usually the
case, this is a fellow AFOL. He is “tiltawhirl”. I won’t mention his real
name. Here’s his MOC page and Brickshelf gallery:
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/231
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Bolliger
I have people copying my work quite regularly, but to have a fellow AFOL do
it, and then to get an email with a ‘prove it!’ ‘it’s a coincidence that it
looks the same!’ and other rude comments like “Wrap your head around
that!”... ugh. I am just disappointed and disgusted to get that kind of
treatment from someone in the AFOL community. I have sent private emails to
this person with no resolution, so I wanted to turn to the community to get
some advice. What should AFOL’s do when their work is being blatantly copied
and sold? Sitting back and doing nothing doesn’t seem to be the answer.
Corey Sanders
www.brickitgood.com
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Let me clarify a few things here.
#1 I have more than 20 years experience with brick. Why did you assume that your
creation had been copied? You didn’t even ask if it might be similar in
design. YOU, sir, started with the rudeness as evidenced by your first
communication to me.
#2 although the two creations are very similar, there are subtle differences
that make this creation unique, and therefore not a copy.
#3 Your futher communications to me were blatant ad hominem attacks without
basis, based on your first incorrect assumption.
Mr Sanders wrote:
“>I received your email via the ebay system regarding a supposed stealing
of work. First of all, your methodology for assuming it is your work
seems a bit hasty.
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I see I’m dealing with a liar and an idiot. I’m not surprised. I
looked at all your pictures, side-by-side, with my model to be sure. IT
IS THE EXACT THING. Don’t tell me we BOTH created a 5,000 piece model
with the exact same bricks, wow quite a coincidence. That’s sarcasm in
case you missed it.
Yea, your “eye” looking at MY instructions.
I see your parents made two mistakes. First, they had you. Second,
they neglected to teach you any morals. I personally can’t imagine
selling something that someone else made, without even mentioning it on
the auction, or asking permission FROM THE ACTUAL CREATOR. Did YOU
spend yours making these instructions?
You afraid to tell me your name, “tilt”?
You are just a nobody and a no talent, selling other people’s work.
SAD”
What is truly SAD is that this supposed Adult fan of lego needs to stoop to the
level of insulting my parents. Yes, thats really mature.
I’m too tired to post much, and to f’ing handicapped to care anymore. But I
wanted the record set straight. Feel free to enjoy the further antics of this
thread.
Oh and thanks Kelly for at least seeing the viability of an alternative theory
to this whole debacle.
As an aside, all of the proceeds of the auction will be donated to the Multiple
Sclerosis Society. Another fact that Mr Sanders left out in his communication.;)
Kind regards
Derek
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| Derek, since you've come out of the woodwork, let's have it out. (...) Are you serious? I assumed you used my instructions since it is exactly the same. Looking at images side-by-side, I see one or two bricks out of place. The other 2,387 are (...) (20 years ago, 22-Mar-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| Out of curiousity, a couple times a month I search Ebay, looking for people selling LEGO creations of mine. Sadly, I often come across one or two a month. These people either claim it as their own, or make no mention that they copied the (...) (20 years ago, 22-Mar-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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