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Although I am not participating, I went to the Lego Factory Competition site
today to cast my vote for some entered models.
How does the voting work? It seems you can vote for as many models as you like.
Is that true? If so, what should I do, go through all the models and give each
one I like a vote, or only vote for my one favorite model?
Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me. I
can't see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
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Thomas Main
thomasmain@myrealbox.com
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In lugnet.general, Thomas Main wrote:
> Although I am not participating, I went to the Lego Factory Competition site
> today to cast my vote for some entered models.
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> How does the voting work? It seems you can vote for as many models as you like.
> Is that true?
Yes, except that you can't vote for your own model.
> If so, what should I do, go through all the models and give each
> one I like a vote, or only vote for my one favorite model?
That's up to you. If there's one model that is really head-and-shoulders above
the rest, vote for that one only. Or you could just vote for all the models that
you find acceptable, in effect voting against the subpar models.
> Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me. I
> can't see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
It looks funny for me,too. A few of the models seem to have this problem. I
haven't loaded any of them into LDD to see what they look like, so I don't know
if it's a problem with the model, the website or what.
Marc Nelson Jr.
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Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
> > Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me. I
> > can't see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
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> It looks funny for me,too. A few of the models seem to have this problem. I
> haven't loaded any of them into LDD to see what they look like, so I don't know
> if it's a problem with the model, the website or what.
Can't see it too. Tried 2 different browsers. I'm quite surprised how it
can get any votes at all. The jpg downloaded from the site is plain
wrong, so I doubt anyone can get better (I've tried to reload the
picture multiple times).
What do you mean by 'I haven't loaded them into LDD'? I don't think you
can download the models, at least I haven't found an option of doing so.
And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to fit
into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly violates that.
I think I'd need some clarification.
Jindroush
www.kostky.org - for czech lego fans
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In lugnet.general, Jindrich Kubec wrote:
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Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
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Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me. I
can’t see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
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It looks funny for me,too. A few of the models seem to have this problem. I
haven’t loaded any of them into LDD to see what they look like, so I don’t
know if it’s a problem with the model, the website or what.
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Can’t see it too. Tried 2 different browsers. I’m quite surprised how it
can get any votes at all. The jpg downloaded from the site is plain
wrong, so I doubt anyone can get better (I’ve tried to reload the
picture multiple times).
What do you mean by ‘I haven’t loaded them into LDD’? I don’t think you
can download the models, at least I haven’t found an option of doing so.
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Yes, you’re right. I had just assumed you could download them the same as the
“Inspirational Models”.
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And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to fit
into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly violates that.
I think I’d need some clarification.
Jindroush
www.kostky.org - for czech lego fans
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The official rules say:
As part of the LEGO Factory Element Pallet, the Entrant will be provided with
three different (3) 8 knob x 8 knob base plates which have a road pattern on
them, and two 8 knob x 8 knob plates in blue (symbolizing water) and green
(symbolizing grass) which can be combined in any way for a maximum building area
of 16 knobs x 16 knobs.
An answer to that question in the
FAQ
says:
You can build the model as tall as you wish, just remember you can’t use more
than 4 base plates to build it upon.
Paul Boucher, LEGO designer
You could argue that the Container Ship and Dock model only uses four base
plates, although it does overhang them a bit. There are some other models
(Kini-Nui in the Senior Category) that are built on more than four baseplates.
Marc Nelson Jr.
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In lugnet.general, Jindrich Kubec wrote:
> Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
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> > > Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me. I
> > > can't see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
> >
> >
> > It looks funny for me,too. A few of the models seem to have this problem. I
> > haven't loaded any of them into LDD to see what they look like, so I don't know
> > if it's a problem with the model, the website or what.
>
> Can't see it too. Tried 2 different browsers. I'm quite surprised how it
> can get any votes at all. The jpg downloaded from the site is plain
> wrong, so I doubt anyone can get better (I've tried to reload the
> picture multiple times).
Not to sound bitter/conspiritorial, but I smell cheating on that one. The jpeg
is corrupted (and has been since day one), yet it's getting a huge number of
votes. I'd like to point this out to someone in charge, but I'd rather not have
to play the role of hall monitor.
> And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to fit
> into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly violates that.
> I think I'd need some clarification.
This is a good question. I assume from the delays and timing of the voting that
someone is handling the process by hand. I would think, if that's the case, that
they would weed out the ineligible entries beforehand.
Man, I'm really whining here. Maybe I'm taking this too seriously, but I would
expect Lego to lay down some rules and actually enforce them if the results of
the contest affect the sales of future sets.
-jeremiah-
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Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
> > And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to
> > fit into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly
> > violates that. I think I'd need some clarification.
> Entrant will be provided with three different (3) 8 knob x 8 knob
> base plates which have a road pattern on them, and two 8 knob x 8
> knob plates in blue (symbolizing water) and green (symbolizing grass)
> which can be combined in any way for a maximum building area of 16
> knobs x 16 knobs.
The rules IMO say: 16x16 studs building area. It doesn't mention at
which height, so it must apply for all heights, so no overhang. Simply
block 16x16xH, where H is height (without limits). If the size limit
wouldn't apply at any other level than ground, the limit wouldn't have
sense at all.
I also don't grok the numbers of baseplates. First, there is no blue 8x8
baseplate in legofactory palette. Second, green with road are only 2
(53480 & 53481).
Probably written by lawyers, right? No logic there. <g>
Jindroush
http://www.kostky.org - for czech lego fans.
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In lugnet.general, Jindrich Kubec wrote:
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Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
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Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me. I
can’t see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
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It looks funny for me,too. A few of the models seem to have this problem. I
haven’t loaded any of them into LDD to see what they look like, so I don’t
know if it’s a problem with the model, the website or what.
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Can’t see it too. Tried 2 different browsers. I’m quite surprised how it
can get any votes at all. The jpg downloaded from the site is plain
wrong, so I doubt anyone can get better (I’ve tried to reload the
picture multiple times).
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This is just silly. Obviously something has gone very wrong with the vote
tallying (or worse, someone has already figured out how to cheat!).
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What do you mean by ‘I haven’t loaded them into LDD’? I don’t think you
can download the models, at least I haven’t found an option of doing so.
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I wish they did let you download them. I guess they’re afraid of people copying
other peoples designs and techniques. The problem is that the relatively small
rendered image they give you is inadequate for letting you make a well informed
vote. They tell you:
Design - Does the model look nice or is it messy? Does the color, structure, details and overall looks fit together well?
Ingenuity - Does the model feature fun, surprising and cool use of elements?
Stability - Does the model look like it would hold together in the real world, or would it fall apart?
I think it’s very hard to judge any of these things with the pictures they give
you. At least you need a hi-res picture, but better would be to let you
download it and rotate it, zoom, etc, in LDD.
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And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to fit
into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly violates that.
I think I’d need some clarification.
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In my opinion, the “Container Ship and Dock” should be accepted as complying
with the 16x16 studs rule. While the ship part does overhang, I think it’s okay
because it’s a vehicle and doesn’t need to be fixed to the rest of the model.
My guess is that the reason for the 16 x 16 rule is so that a bunch of these
models could be placed together to create the Micro City. In such a situation,
assuming the model was lined up with other “waterside” models, you’d have no
problem with the ship overhanging. Just my opinion, we’ll see what the judges
say.
Regards,
Paul D.
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In lugnet.general, Paul S. D’Urbano wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Jindrich Kubec wrote:
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Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
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Also, the current No. 1 Senior model is not displaying correctly for me.
I can’t see what it is. Anyone else having this problem?
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It looks funny for me,too. A few of the models seem to have this problem. I
haven’t loaded any of them into LDD to see what they look like, so I don’t
know if it’s a problem with the model, the website or what.
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Can’t see it too. Tried 2 different browsers. I’m quite surprised how it
can get any votes at all. The jpg downloaded from the site is plain
wrong, so I doubt anyone can get better (I’ve tried to reload the
picture multiple times).
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This is just silly. Obviously something has gone very wrong with the vote
tallying (or worse, someone has already figured out how to cheat!).
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This does seem awfully odd. It’s still number one, with almost twice as many
votes as the next runner-up. And it’s a garbage image. But there’s nothing in
the rules that say you can’t have all your friends vote for yours, no matter how
corrupted the image or how poor the actual design. (Not saying the design is
poor, but again, I can’t see it.)
It also clearly exceeds the 16x16 stud limit.
I wonder if there’s a way for LEGO to pre-qualify entries before people waste
votes on them. They’re moderated now, it doesn’t seem like it would be that much
more of an effort to weed out the obviously nonconforming submissions.
Kelly
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> > And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to fit
> > into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly violates that.
> > I think I'd need some clarification.
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> This is a good question. I assume from the delays and timing of the voting that
> someone is handling the process by hand. I would think, if that's the case, that
> they would weed out the ineligible entries beforehand.
>
> Man, I'm really whining here. Maybe I'm taking this too seriously, but I would
> expect Lego to lay down some rules and actually enforce them if the results of
> the contest affect the sales of future sets.
I've submitted some creations for this week contest, I've sent them my signed
letter for the partecipation BUT:
1. after rather 10 days my creations are still pending
2. all my creations (there were a couple of normal buildings) were 16x16 studs
(as the rules say)... did I make something wrong? I suppose my creations are TOO
SMALL because I see a lot (I say A LOT... not 1 or 2!!!!) of creations that are
very larger than 16x16 (even one of them has the most numbers of votes!!!). Are
the Lego judges blind or have they some problems with the counting?????????
Moreover many of those BIG creations are made by AFOLs (or something similar)
older than 12 yr.
If a 6yr or 8yr child submits a creation that is not *as the rules say*, I could
understand... but those mistakes should not be allowed for the other
participants!
I thought, this idea was very good... but now it seems more similar to a joke!
Please, LEGO, take a look at this!!!!!!
Luca Giannitti
*** AFOL that will no longer submit creations until the contest will be with
serious rules and judges! ***
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In lugnet.general, Luca Giannitti wrote:
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And the last thing about the competition. I thought the rule was to fit
into 16x16 studs, but model #2 in senior section clearly violates that.
I think I’d need some clarification.
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This is a good question. I assume from the delays and timing of the voting
that someone is handling the process by hand. I would think, if that’s the
case, that they would weed out the ineligible entries beforehand.
Man, I’m really whining here. Maybe I’m taking this too seriously, but I
would expect Lego to lay down some rules and actually enforce them if the
results of the contest affect the sales of future sets.
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I’ve submitted some creations for this week contest, I’ve sent them my signed
letter for the partecipation BUT:
1. after rather 10 days my creations are still pending
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This seems odd. Are you sure it’s been that long? I know anything accepted after
Sunday goes into next week’s competition, and the
FAQ
page says it takes up to four days to moderate entries. I’d bet on your
submissions showing up on next week’s board.
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2. all my creations (there were a couple of normal buildings) were 16x16 studs
(as the rules say)... did I make something wrong? I suppose my creations are
TOO SMALL because I see a lot (I say A LOT... not 1 or 2!!!!) of creations
that are very larger than 16x16 (even one of them has the most numbers of
votes!!!). Are the Lego judges blind or have they some problems with the
counting?????????
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They obviously are making no attempt to enforce this rule, as the leading entry
you noted shows. This is particularly annoying as it’s one of the primary
reasons for disqualification they list in the same FAQ answer I linked to above.
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Moreover many of those BIG creations are made by AFOLs (or something similar)
older than 12 yr.
If a 6yr or 8yr child submits a creation that is not *as the rules say*, I
could understand... but those mistakes should not be allowed for the other
participants!
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I agree. I’m not sure how they’re going to handle this issue, as the current
senior-category leader is pretty much a guaranteed win at this point and is, as
you said, clearly breaking the size rule.
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I thought, this idea was very good... but now it seems more similar to a joke!
Please, LEGO, take a look at this!!!!!!
Luca Giannitti
*** AFOL that will no longer submit creations until the contest will be with
serious rules and judges! ***
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I don’t know that I’d take it that far, but I agree with your sentiments. I feel
like I’ve done nothing but complain about this contest, when in actuality I’m
having a lot of fun playing around in the program and looking forward to the
upoming competitions. And really, as long as it’s fun to do and my skin is thick
enough to withstand a little (OK, a lot) of annoyance with the system, I’m going
to keep entering models and encouraging others to do the same. After all, you
never know what (or who) those crazy voters will pick next, no? :P
-jeremiah-
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