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| | | Eric Kingsley wrote: <snip> (...) Your spin on TLC's marketing to girls is interesting. Although you and your wife find it objectionable, I and my daughter don't. In fact, I would say that the vast majority like it, or otherwise TLC wouldn't have (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | (...) Hey now, I think Paradisa line was pretty good, I just took out the pink, and painted parts I couldn't get anywhere else. It still beats out Clinton Center, Crash City, or whatever Town Junior is called now. :) I still like my Black Corvette (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Ben Roller
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| | | | | | (...) No, you see, BOYS have beards and such and GIRLS have long eyelashes and lipsticked lips! That's what I think he meant. ;) Seriously though, I'm a "boy" with long hair, but I don't keep it combed straight down and the other long hair pieces (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | (...) OTOH, my daughter (now 15) looks with scorn on the "girls" Lego sets. She likes space themes - realistic ones, not sci-fi. In fact she also scorns the Lego female faces, calling them "lipstick babes". (She also scorns Barbie and other "girls (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) That's okay....She's *15*. The sets are geared toward 7-12 year olds. (...) lol Good for her. Anything beyond the classic smiley is too much, IMHO:-) (...) It *is* interesting. Girls and boys *are* different. Is that so surprising or sexist? (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Erin Windross
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| | | | | | | (...) wife (...) the (...) it. (...) I'm a boy and I like building interior more than exterior (you'll see some of that in Seaborn Brick) I once built a recreation of the dinning room in the movie "THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE" Down to every (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) You mean like launch command for example? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, although she uses the parts to build her own stuff - deep space ships, or space stations. Kevin (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | (...) wife (...) it. (...) girls (...) rather (...) unsuccessful (...) Vice (...) Well, the midi / maxi -figs part for girls might be true, but unsuccessful paradisa line? Maybe it's just me, but I was between the 7-12 range when Paradisa was (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Leanne Opaskar
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| | | | | (...) Gotta call you on this one, man. (: I *love* Paradisa. I wish I hadn't been in my Dark Ages while it was available. I wish I could get ahold of it -- I need the pieces-parts to build my town, Southern-California style, but there's no way I can (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) They weren't all that cheap then, either. I liked the theme as well, but I think overall it was a flop ie no one bought it. (...) You have a point. I'm thinking of Polly Pockets. Now they were downright tiny, and my daughter loved them. We (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | (...) I do not know where you are from so I can't make any assumptions based on your market but in the US you almost never see either Belville or Scala in stores and usually when you do see it its in a specialty store (in my experiance anyway). I (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —John Neal
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| | | | | | Eric Kingsley wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> I know I'll prolly get lit up good for this, but here goes. Generally speaking, I don't see LEGO as being a toy sought out by girls. Now before you ignite the torches, let me explain. First, take an (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | (...) Part of my frustration is that it's difficult to _find_ Lego system toys that are generally appealing to girls. Almost all of the sets are fire trucks, police stations, race cars, or space/castle/pirate sets, and as someone else mentioned, all (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | | | | | TLC has produced some non-conflict sets, the one that comes to my mind is 6595 'Surf Shack'. I somewhat suspect that this set was sort of a prototype-Paradisa set, although without the pink. Train sets would also fall into this catagory. Ray (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Rachel Kingston
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| | | | | | | | (...) OK well an AFOL mother of a boy(2yrs) and a girl (10yrs) I guess I'm qualified to add something to this discussion. My daughter, would've actually loved the pink cutesy themed sets when she was three to five yrs old. That is when she started (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | (...) You're right; I didn't mean to say that. Note my distain for the Scala line. I'd like to see the better non-conflict oriented sets for boys AND girls. But I also have a hypothesis that these sets would sell really well to girls. And when I'm (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | (...) Well I am not going to light you up at all because I agree with most of what you say. I actually think that other than a few slight differences our views on this subject are very similar. I agree that LEGO is not sought out by girls. I really (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | (...) I guess part of my point is that not only are the Lego Company's current efforts not a part of the solution, they are ACTIVELY a part of the problem. Their "for girls" line is their least problem-solving/building oriented, and conversely, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | | Girls and LEGO (was: Re: Introducing LEGO Direct) —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | | Hi John and everyone, Before I respond to John's letter, I'd like to say this: As a girl, not so long ago fitting in the Scala and Belville age range, with three (both older and younger) sisters and three girl cousins, I have to say that I agree (...) (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.belville, lugnet.scala)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Girls and LEGO (was: Re: Introducing LEGO Direct) —Steve Martin
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| | | | | | (...) - (...) Shiri, I hope you are right. So far my little girl is showing some interest in lego. I am a little worried that she isn't interested enough. Although my wife encourages me by reminding me she is only 10 months old. ;-) Steve (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.belville, lugnet.scala)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Girls and LEGO (was: Re: Introducing LEGO Direct) —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | | | (...) LOL! :-D Thanks for making my day! -Shiri (25 years ago, 14-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.belville, lugnet.scala)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Girls and LEGO (was: Re: Introducing LEGO Direct) —Heather Patey
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| | | | | | In lugnet.general, Steve Martin writes: <snip> (...) LOL too! Give her time, Steve, and she probably won't need very much, with your encouragement... my just-turned-two-year-old has lots of Primo and Duplo, and she continually asks to "build a (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.belville, lugnet.scala)
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| | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Matthew Miller
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| | | | (...) Actully, I think your last sentence captures the issue more than the first point. The problem with Paradisa isn't that it was marketed for girls. The problem is that it was a weird pink and has strange architectural stuff going on. I think (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Ray Sanders
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| | | | (...) For the architectural stuff, we would need a second TLC motto: 'build well' :) (...) TLCs motto (IIRC) is 'play well', not 'build well'. A large portion of the existing sets have to do with battles or adventure (Castle, Pirate, Star Wars, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Matthew Miller
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| | | | (...) A good point. And arguably (perhaps unfairly, but that's a further debate) a traditional male testosterone-driven worldview. Why does "play" mean "conflict"? (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | (donning flame-retardant attire) When these young people walk out into the real world, they will find that not everyone is testosterone-driven, regardless of their gender. Gender and aggressive behavior do not line up evenly. I have known aggressive (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Alex Wetmore
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| | | | | | And in fact when I was a child (not that long ago, born in 1974) Lego sets weren't all that conflict oriented either. The space sets of the time had no weapons for instance. The first set with a fighting theme that I can think of is the yellow (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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| | | | | | Re: Introducing LEGO Direct —Jeff Thompson
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| | | | (...) "Only You, the LEGO Maniac, can determine what color dress Shala will wear to the dance." -- jthompson@esker.com "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily" (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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