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Re: An alternative open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:47:17 GMT
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In lugnet.color, Burkhard Schloemer wrote:
How pathetic. And not even funny. What’s the point beside showing you’ve already
earned a master degree in sucking up?

Here we have a petition, Ben’s letter, an attempt to use the growing influence
of AFOLs in order to improve our hobby and to help reverse the worst decision
LEGO has ever made while it is still a possibility. A letter signed by a large

Here is where I have the issue--to *you* it's the worst decision the company
ever made.  Along with the original letter inferring in the english translation
that this petition was from 'all' AFOL's (a problem with translation so we're
told now, and i haven't read the German one to see if the inference is there as
well), most people who have, what I consider an overtly large, issue with the
colour change think that *everyone* should think that this is the *worst*
decision that TLC has ever made, and those that don't think as such are somehow
'kissing up' to TLC.

Well, thanks for that.

Statement 1--I do not  kiss up to TLC.  I tell it like it is, in my opinion.

Statement 2--You can believe that this is the worst decision that TLC has ever
made, but you cannot take that belief and project it onto others, or speak for
them.  For example, you can state--

"In my opinion, this is the worst decision that TLC ever made!"

You cannot state emphatically, "This is the worst decision ever made"


number of the most skilled builders around, many of them second to none, not
even to the model designers at Billund. (For the record: I just rate „fairly
decent“...)

I like to think I'm a pretty good builder.  I may not be as good as some, and I
may be better than others.  I know really great builders that don't really care
about the colour change, and I know some really poor builders that don't care
about the colour change.

As I said to someone else earlier--I have my camp and you have yours--where does
that get us?  Which camp is better?  Who defines what a great builder is and
shoud we then 'bow down' and listen to what they have to say about the colour
change?



And then there is YOU.

I stopped trying to talk sense into every kid or guy who feels entitled to mouth
his opinion on the color issue. What makes YOU feel entitled to chime in when
the most dedicated AFOLs in the world try to actually improve the situation
(futile as it may be), beside that it is so easy to do? Your opinion carries no

What makes you feel entitled to chime in with this attitude because some people
don't believe what you do?  What makes your "dedicated AFOL's who think that the
colour change is the worst thing" superior to my "dedicated AFOL's who are
ambivalent to the colour change"?

And for the record, how do you think that this animosity is actually "improving
the situation".  My belief is that you're causing consternation with TLC in
general--you're alienating the very people who would do, and have actually have
done, good work for the AFOL community.  If I were an executive at TLC, I would
have 'turned a blind eye' to the AFOL community due to the apparent childish
behaviour that they display when TLC makes business decisions.

weight at all. Of course, you’re entitled to it - but that’s about it. You could
as well declare: the color of the sky is cleary and truely ORANGE (having your
orange sunglasses on) but what the heck and would everybody please just stop
complaining?!

I'm not asking anyone to not voice an opinion. But look at your post right
here--it's presumtuous (speaking for a large group of supposed 'great builders
so we *must* listen to them!), it's stand-offish "I don't like what you say so
you just shouldn't talk!")--why would anyone who can make decisions at TLC take
you seriously?


You don’t like reading anything about „color change“ in general?  Too bad for
you. This subject naturally concerns every serious model designer, this subject
pops up every time I consider spending money on sets and every time I spend the
money at Bricklink instead. And this subject is here to stay for another while.


Yes it does--it concerns me and my friends who, in my opinion, are 'great
designers' as well.  Myself, as well as they, don't mind the new colours.
Furthermore, we don't presume to know what's best for a multi-billion dollar
company, nor do we dictate what is good and what is bad for this company from
the 'cheap seats'.

In fact you should rather support the SYSTEM-color movement, in your own best
interest. Really! Or is there a better way to get rid of the (most serious)
„complainers“ than getting the SYSTEM-colors back? ;)


I'd rather the 'serious complainers' take a close look at this obsession and
perhaps book some time in with counsellors or pshrinks, for they have, again in
my opinion, stepped over the line from 'a hobby' to 'an obsession'.


"Primus" Burkhard
Brick Commander (LEGO & BattleTech)
Official BattleTech & Mechwarrior Fan-Site
http://www.BrickCommander.com

David Koudys
-3 time 1st place winner of rtlToronto LEGO Mindstorms competitions (does that
put me in a cetegory of 'great builder'?



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: An alternative open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company
 
Hi David, (...) This sentence: "We, the signatories of this letter, form the group of Adult Fans Of LEGO® (AFOLs)." was translated from these german words: "Wir, die Unterzeichner dieses Briefes, sind überwiegend sogenannte AFOLs (Adult Fans Of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego)
  surrender, you're surrounded!
 
Hello David! There can be no color debate thread without you, right? ;) (...) OF COURSE it is to ME. Who do you think did type this? My CAT?? (...) In fact I'm afraid there is not much thinking at all involved with those posts. Different interests (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego) ! 

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  Re: An alternative open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company
 
How pathetic. And not even funny. What’s the point beside showing you’ve already earned a master degree in sucking up? Here we have a petition, Ben’s letter, an attempt to use the growing influence of AFOLs in order to improve our hobby and to help (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego)

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