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(...) Oops, note: Gray - 1961? -> 2003 (CA/ABS switch in 1963) Brown - 1974? -> 2003 (ABS in 1977?, 1974 in different, flexible plastic) Dk Gray - 1977? -> 2003 So, at least 41 years for Gray ABS, and 27 years of Brown and Dark Gray (31 years for (...) (20 years ago, 23-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Dave, Gray actually goes back to the 1950's. I have a 10x20 thick baseplate in gray without "Lego" on the studs (pre 1957). The 10x20 baseplates first came out in 1953, but I cannot confirm that they started in gray that year. The next (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Huh! Earliest I found on peeron was 1961, but that's pretty cool that it was out even before... (...) I know grey *bricks* were certainly rare trinkets until about 1984 when the castle line started using them. Before then I seem to remember (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Dave, Those spare parts packs (#214-#271) have a long and complicated history. They first came out in 1955 (for non-brick items such as road signs, Esso pumps/signs, trees/bushes) and 1957 (for bricks -- prior to that bricks were only sold (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Duh! I forgot there was an easy way to tell the years for black vs. gray. Here is a 1961 Austrian Catalog that shows bricks in red, white, blue, yellow and clear, but no black. It also shows the 10x20 baseplate comes in gray (yes that is gray, (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) #@%@##, wrong side of 1961 Austrian Catalog, try here: (URL) Istok P.S. The above swear symbols are not to be confused with a geek code :-) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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Switching gears completely Gary, what's the status on you CD? Lester (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Gary, perhaps you could identify something for me? I have a number of gray 10x10 thick baseplates that appear to be the tops of boxes. I rescued them from a friend who was disposing of his Lego collection (!), but the boxes were already lost.. (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Lester, You can blame Eric Strand for it not being ready yet! :-) Seriously, Eric (who is helping me) has found a whole new line of Lego items, namely USA/Canada Samsonite department store catalog sets. These were sold in Sears, Penney's and (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Dave, Jan K. of Germany went on a tour of the vault in Billund. Here is her Brickshelf set of pictures from that visit. Check out the 2nd and 3rd picture (1825 and 1826). This is a 1953-56 Lego set, probably a #700/2 or #700/3. Note on the (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Hello Brian, I answered the question on the black parts in a different post in this color thread, 1962 is correct as the begin date for black. Those 10x10 thick baseplates you have are a USA/Canada Samsonite item. They were never released in (...) (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.color)
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