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Re: More news on 2000 lineup!
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Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:31:28 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > Let me try again, why is Fright Knights "real" castle and Ninja not?
> > > Whether they both collectively suck or not is beside the point.
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> > Because FK are firmly rooted in what I see when I fantasize about
> > Castle stuff, both in style of construction and "historical" period.
> > And Ninja is not. Wrong place, wrong time.
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> > Same reason Wild West aren't Pirates imo, and as obvious to me.
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> Wild west has nothing to do with sailing ships or pirates, nor does Lego claim
> that it is part of the Pirates line. If you are going to attempt a parallel,
> try Islanders, which was officially part of the Pirate line.
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> Ninja has castles, swords, armor, cavalry, etc. Kind of seems REAL obvious to
> me. It's just eastern as opposed to western. That you don't care for it is
> fine. That it is not directly compatible, and that bugs a lot of people, I
> understand. But it is Castles.
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> Bruce
As far as Castle vs. Ninja, it's debateable as to whether or not Ninja belongs
in the same sub-theme. As far as being eastern/western, I think I'd agree for
the most part except for the one key difference of having guns. That seems to
put the Ninja theme further in the future than "regular" Castle. However,
because the time frame for the mideaval era stretches a great distance, the
time frame for "Castle" can be viewed as being non-specific. So it might not be
pushing it too far (I'm no historian) to group Ninja as in the same time frame
as Castle.
I think the problem lies in the title "Castle". Westerners tend to think of
castles as being Mideaval fortresses around 1000 AD (give or take a couple
centuries) and being Euro-centric. But "Castle" as a word doesn't necessarily
have that meaning. Perhaps it woule be better language-wise to call it a
"Mideaval" theme, or perhaps MORE correct to call it "Feudal". I think that
would more safely encompass Ninja for TLG's sake.
From my own standpoint, however, Ninja doesn't seem to fit with what has been
produced in the past for the rest of the "Castle" line... I'm not very likely
going to be integrating my Emperor's Ninjas with my Royal Knights characters in
epic combat. The two worlds don't really mix well. Hence perhaps it would be
more fitting if they WERE placed into a separate category; although it is by no
means inaccurate to place them together-- it simply makes the "Castle" title
bend towards the "Mideaval-time-period" interpretation.
DaveE
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| (...) to (...) be (...) in (...) no (...) I have to stand by my earlier statement: you may not like, it may not be compatible with euro-castles, but Castles it is, nevertheless. My son doesn't particularly care about compatiblity, in any case (the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Nov-99, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) Wild west has nothing to do with sailing ships or pirates, nor does Lego claim that it is part of the Pirates line. If you are going to attempt a parallel, try Islanders, which was officially part of the Pirate line. Ninja has castles, swords, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Nov-99, to lugnet.castle)
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