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Re: Medieval Marketplace (A Common Castle Builders Project)
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Sat, 19 Oct 2002 23:45:43 GMT
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<de-lurk>
While I'm not taking part in the Moonbase project, I did read the terms that
had been developed. About the only "firm" issues were the size and height of
the airlocks, plus a minimum set-back for airlock support (so that a
moonbuggy could pass underneath). These kinds of minimum standards could be
adapted to this proposed project without cramping creativity - which is the
whole purpose of building stuff!
What I see developing here are two competing but complementary ideas. One is
for a "marketplace" - generally an open place that has been filled with
basically temporary type structures, with enough room for pedestrian
traffic. The second is for a "market/town street", with permanent structures
of one or two (maybe even three!) floors containing shop/home.
Here are some proposed guidelines, which are presented for discussion (i.e.
other views are welcome):
Marketplace:
- Baseplate standard: 16x16;
- temporary style structures of one level (an "attic" level might be workable);
- front offset of ~3-4 studs - allows for pedestrian traffic between facing
stalls;
- back offset of ~1-2 studs - for back alley access for merchants;
- if not a full-width stall, a side offset of ~1-2 studs;
- if a corner stall, front off-sets of ~3-4 studs on both sides, back
off-set of 2x2 studs minimum.
Market/Town Street:
- Baseplate standard: 16x16;
- Baseplate variations: 16x32 for longer buildings, or regular back-to-back,
OR 32x32 for longer buildings, back-to-back;
- permanent style structures of one or two (or maybe even three) levels;
- 1 stud front off-set (so baseplates can be connected with brickplates);
- back off-set of ~1-2 studs for back alley;
- no side off-set or overhang;
- ~2 stud front overhang allowed;
I doubt I've covered all aspects, and the above list actually looks bigger
than I thought when it was all in my head.
So, what do you like about the above list? What don't you like? What
additions/subtractions/improvements/etc would you suggest?
Well, that's me two cents worth.
Alan
PS Josh, thanks for correcting the spelling of the subject line :)
In lugnet.castle, Josh Wedin writes:
> I really like this idea for a common project. Of course, I am biased since
> it is already what I am doing. I use the 32x32 baseplate as the standard in
> my town so I am fine with the minimum of 16x16 as the standard for this
> project. It just means that I build four at once! I also use the 16x32
> baseplates for my roads. Any problems with this?
>
> What about attaching units? Do we just use green plates to attach or are we
> going to build up one brick and use technic connectors? There are pros and
> cons to both. Any ideas?
>
> One more thing, we don't have to limit ourselves to a market. I am planning
> my village to be a medium size town on a fair day. Not a royal fair, but a
> small one put on by the local lord. Includes a small tournament. If the
> whole town was built out of 16x16 baseplates we could make a really nice
> town, not just a market!
>
> Build On!
> Josh
>
> In lugnet.castle, Frank Filz writes:
> > Jeremy Scott wrote:
> > >
> > > In lugnet.castle, Jason Maxwell writes:
> > > > In lugnet.castle, Jeremy Scott writes:
> > > > > One word - "marketplace"!
> > > > >
> > > > > The market place was the center of the medevil town. Now we castle builders
> > > > > need to become merchantmen instead of army generals.
> > > > >
> > > > > A market stand is built onto a "plot" - say 15x15. The "plot" may either
> > > > > have 1 corner or no corner. Merchandise can be anything.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I really like this idea. Not sure what you mean by "corner" though, do you
> > > > mean the stand is a corner stand so that there are two sides of it open to
> > > > the shoppers instead of just one?
> > >
> > > Yes, the marketplace would be on a street or road. You can build your stand
> > > to be literally just a stand, or it can be a building multiple stories tall.
> > >
> > > The road idea means we can connect our market stands together when we would
> > > meet at conventions or local club meetings.
> > > >
> > > > I would think 16x16 would be a more natural LEGO plot size. Do we want to
> > > > have build in connectors bwetween the stalls, or little alleyways between them?
> >
> > One reminder since people didn't think about it with the castle town:
> >
> > Make sure your creation is entirely within the 16x16 area, except that
> > it may hang over the street some.
> >
> > Frank
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