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In lugnet.castle, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Adrian Drake writes:
> > > Here's my latest creation, a Viking Longship with a mechanism that's used to
> > > make the oars row. It's also manned by ninja figs. Congratulations to the
> > > castleheads, another mostly spacehead has made the transition, at least
> > > temporarily :)
> > >
> > > Check it out, it's under the new castle heading of my web page.
> >
> > Just want to point out that the classic "flared" and "bullet" helms are Norman
> > helms with chain coifs, and the Normans were what the Anglo-Saxons called the
> > Viking conquerors. :) So you *can* make Vikings. :)
>
> Not exactly. The two terms are not really interchangeable; they
> were separated by a few hundred miles and several centuries.
> The Viking "conquerors" in England were called Danes (thus the term
> "Danelaw"); "Normans" was really reserved for those who settled
> in what is today Normandy. They only became "conquerors" in England
> in 1066, but by then they were about as un-Viking as Vikings could
> get. (As for the Vikings = Danes, they only became Danes when they
> took territory--they were Vikings when they were raiding and
> plundering. When is a door not a door...?)
>
> So Normans refers to those who settled in northern France, or who
> came to England via northern France. The helms, as Jeff points out,
> are of that make (though the vintage is probably later than 1066).
> Either you didn't conquer in England, or you weren't Viking when
> you did, in order to be Norman.
I could've put the bullet helmet on these guys to make it more realistic,
but since I didn't have 34 of them, I figured I'd go with what I had :)
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> Um, that geekly interjection made, that's one heck of an excellent
> longboat, Adrian! Nice curvature on the ends, and the banks of oars
> and shields really look perfect. I feel badly for the poor guy up
> in the lookout, though...;)
Think I should've built him a crow's nest? Yeah, probably, but the guy
knows how to hang on tight *heh*
Adrian
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