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Dear Tim, I agree with idea to standardize the TLG model header and filename. Some comments: Tim Courtney wrote in message ... (...) 1. If we use the plain set number as filename, this may lead to confusion, because I'm sure there are identical part (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Good thinking on this, but there is one problem not addressed: duplicate set numbers. For this we will need at least one character to distinguish different sets with the same number. But this puts us over the 8+3 characters. The only character we (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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John VanZwieten wrote in message ... (...) set (...) different (...) only (...) "T7140a_1". I (...) how (...) What if we would consider the content of a duplicate set as alternate models of the same set numbers. Eg. 7140 is duplicate set then, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) If they're related or not is beyond me, but someone could investigate the duplicates to look for similarities. The duplicates are never in production at the same time, so they are a few years apart at the least. They could be of the same theme (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Typically, sets with duplicate numbers have nothing to do with each other.[1] So it isn't really accurate to consider one set as an alternate of the other. Steve 1) There are exceptions, where variations of a set are available, such as 6938, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) What's the difference between your definition of model and submodel? Is this correct for the Red Bird Rig (Model Team don't know the number) 1st model: truck w/ plane submodels: tractor trailer plane 2nd model: jeep w/ racecar submodels: jeep (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Wouldn't adding the year take care of this? Or you could take the pause/lugnet approach: s6938-1.dat s6938-2.dat etc.. submodels of this set could be: s6938-1a.dat s6938-1b.dat etc.. It just barely fits in the 8.3 format, but it would probably (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Here's a thread on oddities -- sets which "break the rules": (URL) The duplicates are never in (...) Not always, unfortunately. Some notable counter-examples are: 8205 Bungee Chopper Has two instructions booklets labeled "8205-1" and "8205-2"; (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Is the 8.3 requirement a legacy thing left over from LDraw & LEdit being DOS applications? What programs in LDraw lore -don't- work on longer filenames? --Todd (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) [...] Serious snippage Todd, If you could come up with a complete list of irregulars, it would be helpful. We can figure out how absolutely necessary or how not absolutely necessary a comprehensive file system is that way. If there is less (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I posted the URL on another node of this thread, but here it is again for convenience: (URL) a list of 238 duplicate set numbers. (...) Bah. Seriously, this is 1999, man. Tough beans for anyone still stuck with Dick's Operating System. DOS (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message <3761643a.3222363@lu...et.com>... (...) OK, I can see now that is not a wise idea to consideer duplicate sets as laternate models. Ampi ---...--- Imre Papp Geometria GIS Systems House email: ipapp@geometria.hu ---...--- (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message <19990611.150459.824...no.com>... (...) Yes, that was my idea. It is necesary for us to use the correct terminology to avoid confusion. The set is the whole box. I consider model in a set that has an instruction (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hmm. LDAO is OK with long file names, except for a few functions (Copy File is one, I think) which explicitly require a valid 8.3 name. LDAO can be configured to translate long paths/names to short versions before shelling to other programs. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) If you compile them for MS-Win95/98/NT they work with long file names. If you compile them for DOS, I don't think they will (but I haven't checked). Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Jacob, Does GNAT-ADA have an option for DOS or Windows compile? When I compiled buildmpd.exe, I didn't look for an option, I assumed it was a DOS compile. BTW, did you (Jacob) receive the buildmpd.exe I e-mailed? Steve (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) No, but there are separate compilers for DOS, MS-Windows 95, and MS-Windows NT. (...) Depends on which compiler you used. (...) Nope. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Ah. And I have now wiped GNAT off my system, so I couldn't tell which one it was. Windows Explorer thinks the compiled file (buildmpd.exe) is a DOS executable. But long file names are handled correctly, I checked both buildmpd.exe and (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) No, but "sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk" is not my e-mail address - even though some of my software clams that. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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