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Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
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lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:23:57 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Orion Pobursky wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, James Mastros wrote:
Why not put out a 0.28, with the more trivial restrictions,
this amongst them, removed? If that's impossible for legal
reasons, will somebody step up to the bat, and write a replacement?

Why have a replacement at all?  The file format stands by itself.  There's no
reference complier for C code, no reference viewer for the PNG format, and no
reference CAD program for the DXF format, why should there be one for the LDraw
system?

Excellent point.

However there are a lot of (in some ways incompatible) dialects of C. There ARE
reference implementations for things like all the Java components (the javac
compiler, the java jvm, the jms messaging, jca, the rmi server, etc etc etc) and
arguably that has helped matters.

One good thing about a reference implementation (which is controlled by the
standards body, which Ldraw 0.27 is NOT since it's not a buildable thing) is
that it can shift arguments about standards a bit.

That said I'm not arguing FOR, just saying "good question". I think I'd rather
try to get by without a reference implementation.

To James M's point I am pretty sure that if JJ were alive today he'd heartily
agree with it. But not certain.

That said I certainly support proposals to the LSC to start deviating from the
standard where it makes good technical sense to do so.

THAT said I am sort of sad that Willy decided to hold this part back, not
because he's within his rights to do so, but because I would rather see one
repository for all parts, but especially this one, even incompatible as it is,
because it's really a nifty part. Many repositories makes it harder for users to
find stuff I think.



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  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) I never knew James; I became aware of LDraw a long time after he has passed away. I have no idea what would be best for the file system, the prog, to honour his accomplishments ... actually I don't care about much. I'm not very good in this (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) Having an official reference implemention would put us in a better position in several ways. For the parts library, we could resolve a number of nagging issues, like the dithered-colors-have...e-subfiled restriction. For the rendering (...) (20 years ago, 13-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: Who Uses Original LDraw? (Was: ... Rocket Launch Pattern)
 
(...) Why have a replacement at all? The file format stands by itself. There's no reference complier for C code, no reference viewer for the PNG format, and no reference CAD program for the DXF format, why should there be one for the LDraw system? (...) (20 years ago, 12-Dec-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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