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Re: OMR Newsgroups for submission?
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:13:17 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
I guess it does make sense to just have one.
And it should allow discussion on the models submitted.

Groups can be set so that they won't accept posts that don't contain DAT
content, and with default followups set elsewhere for discussions.  But
what's the worry about keeping the discussions (of the models just posted)
in the same group when the group itself isn't literally the repository but
rather a superset of it?  That is, even without discussions, there will
occasionally be something posted there which was an accident or an obsoleted
version of a file, which means that there's no way to just comb the newsgroup
automatically and simply pick out a perfect set files.

But even if there were, there's no way to tell which files have been
approved, which means someone needs to maintain a list.  But that's easy:
You simply set up a multi-column relational database associating a set
number with a post number in a newsgroup, for example (these are just
fictitious examples)...

   6989-90   lugnet.cad.dat.omr    171
   6987-87   lugnet.cad.dat.omr    188
   6991-94   lugnet.cad.dat.omr    229
   :         :                     :

and then to pull out all the .DAT content, simply iterate over the rows,
generating URLs like

   http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat.omr:171
   http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat.omr:188
   http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat.omr:229
   :

and slurp those in with LWP::Simple (part of the standard Perl5 LWP package)
and strip out the stuff that's not part of the .DAT file and save that in
a local directory.  Then zip all of that up and you have .zip file.  That
can be maintained and run from any machine on the net.

I think that's the only safe way to maintain a list when the data is stored
in newsgroups...storing a table of pointers to news articles.  And that's
the only way to keep the threads associated along with them as well.

If that sounds too gunky, then you'll need to figure out some other way to
store the original .DAT/.MPD files, echoing them into the newsgroup after
acceptance and hopefully still maintaining some kind of link to the article
for tracking the discussions.


Remind me again what "the group thing" is?

Just having a newsgroup for the OMR submission...
Could you set up .cad.dat.omr?

Let's see...what would that look like on the web pages?  At the top, it
would have to go either

   CAD / DAT Files / Official Model Repository /
or
   CAD / DAT Files / OMR /

I think the second one is confusing and the first one is playing with fire.
But anyway, wouldn't the already existing .cad.dat.models.sets work just
fine?

--Todd



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At 09:45 PM 7/14/99 , Todd Lehman wrote: [...] Mega Snippage... (...) I guess it does make sense to just have one. And it should allow discussion on the models submitted. (...) Just having a newsgroup for the OMR submission... Could you set up (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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