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Re: OMR Newsgroups for submission?
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
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Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:14:54 GMT
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At 11:13 PM 7/14/99 , Todd Lehman wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney writes:
> > I guess it does make sense to just have one.
> > And it should allow discussion on the models submitted.
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> Groups can be set so that they won't accept posts that don't contain DAT
> content, and with default followups set elsewhere for discussions. But
> what's the worry about keeping the discussions (of the models just posted)
> in the same group when the group itself isn't literally the repository but
> rather a superset of it? That is, even without discussions, there will
> occasionally be something posted there which was an accident or an obsoleted
> version of a file, which means that there's no way to just comb the newsgroup
> automatically and simply pick out a perfect set files.
Good point.
> But even if there were, there's no way to tell which files have been
> approved, which means someone needs to maintain a list. But that's easy:
> You simply set up a multi-column relational database associating a set
> number with a post number in a newsgroup, for example (these are just
> fictitious examples)...
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> 6989-90 lugnet.cad.dat.omr 171
> 6987-87 lugnet.cad.dat.omr 188
> 6991-94 lugnet.cad.dat.omr 229
> : : :
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> and then to pull out all the .DAT content, simply iterate over the rows,
> generating URLs like
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> http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat.omr:171
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat.omr:188
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/raw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat.omr:229
> :
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> and slurp those in with LWP::Simple (part of the standard Perl5 LWP package)
> and strip out the stuff that's not part of the .DAT file and save that in
> a local directory. Then zip all of that up and you have .zip file. That
> can be maintained and run from any machine on the net.
Sounds good. So where would this list be stored? Would it be stored on
Lugnet and linked to by the newsgroup resources? Would it be stored on
ldraw.org and linked to by the OMR itself? I think the more appropriate
place is Lugnet, since it is directly associated with the _newsgroup_ itself.
There could be a marker by each news article which contains DAT content
which indicates if it is approved and in the OMR or not. It could be
something like a red-yellow-green system:
Red - Not approved
Yellow - Approved but not yet in OMR
Green - Approved and available in OMR (then link to OMR entry...)
But a simple little icon next to the article would help out people who surf by.
> If that sounds too gunky, then you'll need to figure out some other way to
> store the original .DAT/.MPD files, echoing them into the newsgroup after
> acceptance and hopefully still maintaining some kind of link to the article
> for tracking the discussions.
It sounds good. It has just the right amount of gunk to be acceptable ;)
> Let's see...what would that look like on the web pages? At the top, it
> would have to go either
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> CAD / DAT Files / Official Model Repository /
> or
> CAD / DAT Files / OMR /
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> I think the second one is confusing and the first one is playing with fire.
> But anyway, wouldn't the already existing .cad.dat.models.sets work just
> fine?
I'd rather steer away from .cad.dat.models.sets to keep it separate. That
is unless .sets' charter changes to be for the OMR and posts to there fall
under the license doohickie. Because if .sets remained a place to just
post sets and we merged the OMR in there we'd have to filter through posts
that are not about the OMR and have to develop a standard OMR subject
header too.
If .cad.dat.omr is created, we could go
CAD / DAT Files / ldraw.org Official Model Repository /
which isn't playing with *as much* fire as just Official Model
Repository. But OMR is too vague, unless it explains the Official Model
Repository in the sidebar below the header.
BTW - suggestion: With the newsgroups by mail feature, could you shorten
the email addresses and get rid of the word 'lugnet.' in the front of
them? It would conveniently shorten the email addresses of some of the
longer groups, like this one. The @lugnet.com in the address should (IMO)
be enough to identify it as a Lugnet group.
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| At 09:45 PM 7/14/99 , Todd Lehman wrote: [...] Mega Snippage... (...) I guess it does make sense to just have one. And it should allow discussion on the models submitted. (...) Just having a newsgroup for the OMR submission... Could you set up (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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