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Re: Purposes of the Organization
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Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:06:43 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Tim Courtney wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, John Riley wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 06:36:40PM +0000, Tim Courtney wrote:
> > > > Purposes of the Organization
> > > > ----------------------------
> > > > + charter the stewardship of file format standards to a group of
> > > > individuals, so they can maintain and develop this community owned
> > > > resource;
> > >
> > > I'm not sure the details of how LDraw maintains and develops the format
> > > should really go in the "Propose" of the org. Wouldn't it suffice to
> > > say:
> > >
> > > + develop and maintain the LDraw format.
> > >
> > > ?
>
> Dan's shortening seems acceptable to me, especially in this context.
>
> The LSC is a group of people elected by the LDraw community and sponsored by
> LDraw.org to be responsible for this maintenance. The central resource for the
> file format is still LDraw.org.
>
> LSC stands for LDraw.org Standards Committee :-)
I didn't know that the .org was in the name. Learn somethin' new every day.
> When you think of LDraw.org, there are two possible interpretations. The
> website, http://www.ldraw.org, and the community organization. Right now there
> is no Organization (capital O), but we see the need for one and are making moves
> towards it (hence, bylaws drafts). So, while I agree the technical standards are
> not necessarily goverend by the people working on the website, they are not
> separated from the idea (and eventual reality) of a community organization.
I tend to think of the organization, mainly because I became involved shortly
before this summer, and the organization began to emerge beyond its ad-hoc
status by establishing the LSC.
> > I'm curious to the last statement:
> >
> > > 7.adapt and respond to other existing and potential future LEGO CAD
> > > formats, whether fan developed, existing CAD formats, or formats
> > > released by The LEGO Company
> >
> > LEGO Digital Designer (LDD) has been out for a while now, but there has been no
> > mention of it on the LDraw.org homepage. Likewise, other parts libraries are
> > now under development, but no mention of it on the homepage (where potential
> > contributors may be checking to see if there is something they could be working
> > on).
>
> We just released a brand new site, and are still working to get that up to
> speed. As someone who's been spending hours each day this week tweaking site
> stuff (and knowing that several others have been doing the same), I'm not
> surprised at all its not up there :-) If you would like to contribute, there is
> a "Submit News" link on the menu which you can see when you have logged in.
Well, I hate to report this, but it needs more tweaking: now that I've logged
in, I see just the LDraw.org logo bar, a button for "Your Account", and the
disclaimer. On the "Your Account" page, I have links for "Your Homepage,"
"Change your info," "Comments setup," and "Logout/exit." I can't find "Submit
News" nor can I even view the main home page (I tried several methods, typing in
the URL, clicking the logo link, etc). After logging out, I can, though.
Woo-boy does it look slick, though. When all the necessary tweaks are done,
it's gonna look and work real nice. The member messaging is going to be great
for parts authors/reviewers.
> Once things have settled down, I for one do want to see mentions of happenings
> in the LEGO CAD world on the site. In fact, its been my plan for some time to
> start doing this. But, right now we have a site to finish getting up to speed.
Do things ever settle down? :)
>
> > I'm wondering what the level of adaptation/respondance will be. Will it be
> > mentions on the news/home page (a blurb about LDD, or a call for POV-RAY part
> > authors, for example), or full-out support for other CAD formats (LXF, or a
> > POV-RAY only parts library hosted on LDraw.org's server)? Or is adaptation mean
> > that the LDraw system will adapt to take advantage of other software (like L3P
> > using the existing POV-RAY)?
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> I'd love to see other libraries hosted on the site, once we've had the time to
> build the structure for them to be hosted within. Most of that revolves around
> organization of content, but then there are the obvious questions of - who
> maintains the new libraries, who owns them, what are the license issues ... etc.
>
> Definitely something to talk about. Of course, in my future involvement with
> LDraw.org, I intend to fulfill #7. But, there are only so many hours in the day
> and I (and others) can only do so much at once. Right now that precious time
> goes into the overhead of getting a site up to speed and managing contributors.
> That won't last forever, and soon enough I (and others) will have the extra
> bandwidth to act on this.
>
> -Tim
Well, you've more than answered my questions, and I'm glad you did. I realize
#7 is farther down the road from now, but you're planning for it. My fear was
that LDraw.org may become exclusive to non LDraw related CAD activity, but
you're clearly heading toward being the premiere group for all LEGO CAD, LDraw
or not. That's encouraging to hear.
Here's to the continued success and progress of LDraw.org (would lift a mug, but
as I'm at work, it'll have to be a plastic water cup).
John
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