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Re: Purposes of the Organization
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Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:20:23 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, John Riley wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Dan Boger wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 06:36:40PM +0000, Tim Courtney wrote:
Purposes of the Organization
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+ charter the stewardship of file format standards to a group of
  individuals, so they can maintain and develop this community owned
  resource;

I'm not sure the details of how LDraw maintains and develops the format
should really go in the "Propose" of the org.  Wouldn't it suffice to
say:

+ develop and maintain the LDraw format.

?

My intepretation of this statement is that LDraw.org will not maintain the file
format.  Rather, a separate group (I believe the LSC) will be in charge of the
file format.

Dan's shortening seems acceptable to me, especially in this context.

The LSC is a group of people elected by the LDraw community and sponsored by
LDraw.org to be responsible for this maintenance. The central resource for the
file format is still LDraw.org.

LSC stands for LDraw.org Standards Committee :-)

As I understand it, LDraw.org is mostly a distribution and community center for
virtual brick building, while another group (the stewardship mentioned) will be
the technical arm overseeing the LDraw file format.  I don't mind keeping them
separate:  some people are technically oriented, some are community oriented.
This lets more people use their talents to their fullest without having to
involve themselves in areas outside their expertise.  I, having no expertise,
just competence, am glad to just contribute.

When you think of LDraw.org, there are two possible interpretations. The
website, http://www.ldraw.org, and the community organization. Right now there
is no Organization (capital O), but we see the need for one and are making moves
towards it (hence, bylaws drafts). So, while I agree the technical standards are
not necessarily goverend by the people working on the website, they are not
separated from the idea (and eventual reality) of a community organization.

I'm curious to the last statement:

7.adapt and respond to other existing and potential future LEGO CAD
  formats, whether fan developed, existing CAD formats, or formats
  released by The LEGO Company

LEGO Digital Designer (LDD) has been out for a while now, but there has been no
mention of it on the LDraw.org homepage.  Likewise, other parts libraries are
now under development, but no mention of it on the homepage (where potential
contributors may be checking to see if there is something they could be working
on).

We just released a brand new site, and are still working to get that up to
speed. As someone who's been spending hours each day this week tweaking site
stuff (and knowing that several others have been doing the same), I'm not
surprised at all its not up there :-) If you would like to contribute, there is
a "Submit News" link on the menu which you can see when you have logged in.

Once things have settled down, I for one do want to see mentions of happenings
in the LEGO CAD world on the site. In fact, its been my plan for some time to
start doing this. But, right now we have a site to finish getting up to speed.

I'm wondering what the level of adaptation/respondance will be.  Will it be
mentions on the news/home page (a blurb about LDD, or a call for POV-RAY part
authors, for example), or full-out support for other CAD formats (LXF, or a
POV-RAY only parts library hosted on LDraw.org's server)?  Or is adaptation mean
that the LDraw system will adapt to take advantage of other software (like L3P
using the existing POV-RAY)?

I'd love to see other libraries hosted on the site, once we've had the time to
build the structure for them to be hosted within. Most of that revolves around
organization of content, but then there are the obvious questions of - who
maintains the new libraries, who owns them, what are the license issues ... etc.

Definitely something to talk about. Of course, in my future involvement with
LDraw.org, I intend to fulfill #7. But, there are only so many hours in the day
and I (and others) can only do so much at once. Right now that precious time
goes into the overhead of getting a site up to speed and managing contributors.
That won't last forever, and soon enough I (and others) will have the extra
bandwidth to act on this.

-Tim



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(...) I didn't know that the .org was in the name. Learn somethin' new every day. (...) I tend to think of the organization, mainly because I became involved shortly before this summer, and the organization began to emerge beyond its ad-hoc status (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: Purposes of the Organization
 
(...) My intepretation of this statement is that LDraw.org will not maintain the file format. Rather, a separate group (I believe the LSC) will be in charge of the file format. As I understand it, LDraw.org is mostly a distribution and community (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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