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| | | Quoting Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com>: (...) I didn't speak up last time because 1) someone else already had and 2) I thought maybe it would die. This seemed like a recap of ideas more than a brainstorming to me, so since it wasn't off (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Tim Courtney
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| | | | (...) The idea of personally identifiable information is indeed a sensitive one, and I recognize that. In fact, I'm a privacy freak myself - when it comes to commercial entities. The reason I included it in the recap/call for more brainstorming is (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Dan Boger
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| | | | | (...) the fact the LDraw.org isn't a commercial entity is completely irrelavent in this case. (...) I would actually be worried about STORING that kind of information on the server. Even for the people who didn't care. Like someone else has posted (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Why not? ldraw.org would presumably be (by Bylaws provision) banned from selling the info, and would presumably be bound to take all reasonable care with the information. Those restrictions (which would take a lot of work to ever change, by (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) my only problem, is since I know what "reasonable care" is, it's really not much. (...) I'm not sure I believe in "privacy provisions" - since it's in lawyer talk, it's usual not possible for the average user to actually know what they say - I (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I'm confused. I find your conflicting statements very conflicting. I think it's time to call the question. What level of validation do you (and Jenn, for that matter, since she voiced a negative with no positive offered) think we need? What (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Jennifer L. Boger
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| | | | | | Quoting Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com>: (...) I don't see a problem with email validation until it becomes a problem, myself. Alternatively, we could require a LUGNET membership number unless anyone disagrees with that idea, so far I've (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | (...) that would work with me, if everyone accepts the risk. (...) I wouldn't want to require LDraw members to be LUGNET members. Dan (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | (...) Same here. (...) I agree here as well. Alternatively, the postcard idea could verify non-LUGNET members. Those opposed to ID as validation have generally accepted the postcard idea in its place. -Tim (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Kevin L. Clague
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| | | | | | (...) myself. (...) can (...) But that membership number would have to be validated with a password to know that it is any good. The numbers are easy to find. Validating the number against the password would require support from lugnet. Do you think (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | (...) Well it would certainly require support from Lugnet, but I don't think it would require validation of the password - just a confirmation email to the Lugnet registered email would be good enough I think? ROSCO (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org — Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's another possibility, yes. The LUGNET server could generate a cryptographically signed string and e-mail this to a user, who could then cut and paste the string and submit it to the ldraw.org server, which would then decode the string (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org — Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) I can think of two ways... I'm sure there are probably more. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- One way is for a member at LDraw.org to declare their LUGNET member id in their LDraw member record and to validate it by declaring their LDraw id in their (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | Hi Todd - In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Todd Lehman writes: [...] (...) The systems you outlined above sound cool. It would be great if this could help with verifying people based on LUGNET member ID's. -Tim PS - are you by chance switching over to (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org — Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yup! Soon! Not _exactly_ the way we brainstormed about it, but effectively the same result, I think. I don't think we'll go back automatically and retroactively convert news-posting accounts, for example. I think there'll be a transition (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Jennifer L. Boger
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| | | | | | Quoting "Kevin L. Clague" <kevin_clague@yahoo.com>: (...) I was only suggesting that the user provide their LUGNET membership number when voting, really. But I'm not nearly as concerned with Ballot stuffing as say, Dan is. :) J (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | (...) Maybe I'm missing something...but, wouldn't we only need to validate someone for an LDraw.org member account once? When they sign up, they provide a piece of info to verify their identity, and then they're allowed to create an account with a (...) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | (...) Yes. But we really want to avoid ballot stuffing, personally identifiable information is needed. So either we have to give up on preventing ballot stuffing, or on not exchanging personally identifiable information. For the brain-storm: * (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: Elections and Membership in ldraw.org —Jacob Sparre Andersen
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| | | | (...) I probably ought to reveal that I expect that I could easily get both a Danish and an Italian digital signature, which it would be non-trivial to show referred to the same person. Play well, Jacob -- Jacob's LEGO trains: (URL) (21 years ago, 30-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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