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  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) I'm having a hard time finding any recent info on it. It also looks like one would have to install something in order to use it (which I'm trying to stay away from). I talked about it with a friend of mine over the weekend and he thinks he (...) (21 years ago, 22-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
Or vrml. There's a converter called LD2VR. (21 years ago, 21-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) Well, I'd like the format more if browsers displayed them, by default. (21 years ago, 21-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
(...) I like the LDSDF_SKIP bit-flag but I don't think we need to add a parameter to to LDrawIniComputeRealDirs(). Here's why. The parameter would make it all or nothing for skipped dirs. I'd rather toggle the LDSDF_SKIP bit-flags of some of the (...) (21 years ago, 21-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
"Lars C. Hassing" <sp.lars@am.hassings.dk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HusLAn.8Cz@lugnet.com... (...) <SNIP> (...) LDrawIniComputeRealDirs (...) SkipSkipDirs (...) I don't realy care but IncludeSkipDirs sounds reasonable. (...) the (...) stead. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
(...) OK, <SKIP> will be parsed into a bit-flag LDSDF_SKIP and LDrawIniComputeRealDirs will have an extra parameter to include/exclude <SKIP> dirs: KeepSkippedDirs, IncludeSkipDirs, DontSkipDirs, ExcludeSkipDirs, SkipSkipDirs - please come up with a (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
"Lars C. Hassing" <sp.lars@am.hassings.dk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Hun57C.1xM8@lugnet.com... (...) four functions (...) data, (...) dirs. (...) model. (...) those with <MODELDIR>. (...) remaining loading of parts. (...) dirs) Don mentioned that (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
"Anders Isaksson" <isaksson.etuna@REMO...telia.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HuoL3w.LHF@lugnet.com... (...) system (...) Which would mean, we will have to support ini files in uni-code, which isn't a problem either, but allows funny characters (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
(...) By modifying ldraw.ini or setting an env var. Why would you want to enable a <SKIP> dir from within a program? (...) I did notice, but forgot it, sorry. %USERPROFILE% or $HOME for <HOMEDIR>, OK fine with me. (...) Yes, I actually thought of (...) (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) The NTFS (NT, XP, W2000) file system uses unicode. I don't know if that matters as long as you are using a western alphabet, but on a Chinese system for example, your file names can of course be in Chinese. -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (...) (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
(...) <Snip ideas> Here are a few random thoughts on those ideas... I haven't thought about it enough to decide if I have a preference on the format of the UnknownFlags. Either way seems ok to me. If directories marked with <SKIP> are excluded from (...) (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clikit file naming
 
(...) part in the entire Clikits library, I made extensive use of it in my recent "Inn of the Fallen Angels" (...) I think this is a great question. My gut reaction would be yes, we should. It has studlike properties, and it tends to appear in a (...) (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDrawIni API (was: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths)
 
Here are my ideas of an API for accessing the LDrawIni settings. The basic idea is that it should be very simple to use, there are only four functions and a data structure declaration. First you call LDrawIniGet to read and initialize all relevant (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clikit file naming
 
(...) Thanks for your comments - the names are just working titles for the present. I was really looking for opinions on whether the connector should be called a stud (as you do) and should have the inbuilt LDraw support for studs. I'm not sure the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Hey, this reminded me of something. Is there some flavor of Windows that uses nasty 16 bit unicode filenames? That could get quite messy. I think the unix world is moving toward UTF-8 which sounds a bit more sane, and should work with either (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Well, I still compile a 16-bit DOS version of L3P for a few users (2%), but I think the coming version 1.4 will be the last. The possibilities when having the full tree in memory are too tempting. We can recommend the few hardcore DOS users to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Clikit file naming
 
(...) it anyway. :-) All three of these parts are what TLC calls "Icons". (URL) (I think) should be named accordingly. The current name of clikit1 is particularly unfortunate because Clikits parts include at least one (small) human-sized ring. An (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Actually I wasn't thinking about long filenames, just the slashes. I can never remember which one is called backslash so I probably wasn't all that clear. Maybe we should just *recommend* using the DOS style slashes as the directory separator, (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
<SNIP (...) sounded (...) INI (...) Ok, Ok ... I agree! No problem with that, I just thought I could convice you for the different side of the river ;-> The solution is not beautyfull, but I can live with it. Michael (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HuLIG9.210E@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) Yes, I prefere that too. (...) No I don't think so, there will be no old programm reading this file, or the section in it. I think there (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Clikit file naming
 
I have just uploaded to the Parts Tracker three potentially useful Clikit parts. All part names are temporary. The female/female (ring) connector (URL) male/male (bead) connector (URL) possibly useful female/female connector (URL) make use of a (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) [testing...] WinXP with NTFS does not let you use < or > in filenames when renaming a file. You could probably generate such a name in plain old DOS - not from the command line interface, but by calling the file operations from a program. At (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Most *nix file systems allow those characters in filenames - just enclose them in quotes. Dunno about Windows. I just tried it on NT and it didn't like it, but I didn't try very hard. ROSCO (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) They could be encoded. This is how Mac OS X pref files are encoded: <sometag>/Path/&gt;&...</sometag> (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Ok, you're starting to catch on to the versatility of extra tags, but don't stop at just one more tag at the end of the line. Allow as many as the user wants. I think <Unofficial> and <Parts> should be separate tags. Just like I know you want (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Yes, I'd prefer numbers and equals signs. All the functions I use to read INI files require this format (or something similar. e.g. <string> <separator> <string>) -Orion (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
(...) Ah, but we've already covered this ground. In addition to the registry functions, there are also Windows functions for reading and writing to INI files in the format with the = sign. Search in this thread for getprivateprofilestring and/or (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
I tend to agree on both points. I would like to point out that primitives is mis-spelled in the example. Let's make sure that the official way has the correct spelling ;-). --Travis Cobbs (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
"Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@REMOVE.halibut.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HuG3s7.qDu@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) it out (...) appear in (...) data (...) numbers (...) responded. (...) the (...) the (...) Easier ? Hmmm - when you read from a file its (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - Summary please!
 
"Kim Toll" <kim.toll@intel.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HuHvvE.w2t@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) base (...) indicates (...) let them (...) with (...) view. (...) the (...) official (...) models and (...) This is a good idea, theoretically we can (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) Not to bash Antonio's work but it's an ActixeX control and requires me to put his site on my secure sites list. Nothing personal but I don't trust him enough to do that. If it was an applet, this problem wouldn't exist. -Orion (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
Antonio Cortes Carrillo has already created a very fine online Ldraw file viewer. Check out the message below. (URL) quite surprising that it has not gained the popularity it deserves. (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  SVG (was Re: Web-based LDraw viewing)
 
Here's an example (it even does some primitive substitution): <?xml version="1.0"?> <svg width="100%" height="100%" viewBox="-18.5 -18.5 37 37"> <defs> <style> <![CDATA[ svg { fill-opacity:0.5;str...oin:round; } .c0 { (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) A while back, I wrote for my own amusement a perl program which will take a patterned part, and will produce an SVG file of the pattern. I've been thinking about forwarding it to the LDraw.org team, so they could include it with the parts (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) Anybody who is interested in a Java and 3D should also check out the Art of Illusion program at (URL). It is open source (GPL) and has I/O plug-ins to support reading and writing different graphics file formats. -Wayne (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) MLCad great for editing but slows down significantly with large files. The only currently released program that even approches web acceptible speeds is L3Lab (although LDView isn't far behind). I just did a little search on SourceForge and (...) (21 years ago, 13-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) Yes, I agree, however you expect larger files to take longer. I would tend towards a low-quality image, as it's targetted at screen viewing, that would speed things up a little. I think Michael's MLcad renderer is fairly fast, a Java version (...) (21 years ago, 13-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
(...) Java is probably the best route for realtime model rendering on the web. The challenge would be to write a rendering engine that quickly processes large model files (as opposed to most current renderers which take a while if the part count is (...) (21 years ago, 13-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Re: Web-based LDraw viewing
 
How about .SVG ? (21 years ago, 13-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
 
  Web-based LDraw viewing
 
Today I was thinking about the complications of LeoCAD/MLCAD and how hard it is sometimes for a group or people to easily deal with CAD files in a project. If one person creates a CAD of something, they either have to email it to everyone who's (...) (21 years ago, 13-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)


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