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  Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
 
(...) I tend to disagree. Given that the whole point of MPD files is to allow LDraw files to be more portable across multiple machines, I think absolute paths should be disallowed. It doesn't make sense to me to allow absolute paths in a file format (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) I disagree with this. Or, if we keep this approach for MPD, I'll want another standard language extension for embedding "macros" in LDraw files. I tend to view (and use) FILEs in MPD files as "subroutines", and I'd prefer they were designed to (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) I wasn't here for the .ldr extension discussions, so this may well have already been covered, but why not ".ldr"? It seems to me that any tool with built-in support for the .ldr extension should also support the MPD format. And the MPD format (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) Me too. And originally, you actually had to split a MPD file before you could view the contents. I would prefer that we stick to this way of treating MPD files as if they are splitted/unpacked before their content is processed. (...) That is (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
(...) Wow... I never thought of that before. I've been designing parts without inside optional lines for years. Good gosh... I'm working on a door right now that has inside curves that can't be covered by primitives- and I need to go look at the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) I think so, too. I see MPD files almost like ZIP files. I know that there are differences, like inside WinZip you can generally only view standalone files without unzipping them first. (The reason I reignited this thread was I wanted to make (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
 
(...) why not just say any of the following (':', '/' and '\') can be used as a delimiter, and it doesn't matter which you use - it's up to the program to translate any of those to the correct one for the OS? (...) defenitly! :) Dan (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> wrote in message news:H0FBpw.8Mv@lugnet.com... (...) The sbotaohe (smoothing based on the absence of hard edges) is definitely the way to do (near) perfect smoothing without radically changing the parts (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
 
(...) I'd prefer we say that local/absolute references are allowed, but provide guidelines to show that relative paths are usually better - easier to manage, easier to share, etc. (...) Yes, yes, and I'm guessing yes. (...) I think you are correct - (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) Good question. Different programs have more (or less) success at handling this. L3Lab seems to have no trouble with it. LDLite usually does ok, but not always (unfortunately, I don't have an example). (...) There's no special syntax, the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
"Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message news:3D4FC5B0.1010300@nbi.dk... (...) This doesn't have to be fixed because the visual effect wil be marginal in programs like ldraw.exe (that actually use optional lines for drawing) and it (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) Auggh! Hey, it's not too late -- there is no official BFC spec. Yet. :> Steve (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) Right. Any "MPD splitter" program should include code to check that filenames and paths are valid, and either report missing paths, or create them, or ask the user before creating them, or provide options (ie, command line parameters) to (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
(...) Yes. (...) If there aren't optional lines, the inside curve won't render correctly, when someone uses a transparent color. Steve (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
(...) I tend to agree with Jacob, but if the big space dish were transparent, optional lines on the concave surface could actually be seen when viewing them through the convex side. However, I fiddled with this once upon a time and I think it adds (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
(...) > there are no optional lines. Shouldn't that be fixed at some point? (...) I disagree. No optional lines are needed on inside curves. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Smoothing on part level using edge lines
 
If you check out the big space dish (3961.dat) you can see the optional line algorithm fails because there are no optional lines. In my opinion this part is good. There is no need to fix this part because it will only get larger and slows down some (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) MPD files should not be named ".ldr" (or ".dat")! Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: MPD spec
 
(...) Done. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Paths, explicit drive references, and the case of file names (Was: MPD spec)
 
(...) I am not sure about explicit drive references. Actually, I think we should limit it to _relative_ paths. We should also decide on a preferred - or maybe even fixed - directory name delimiter. I suppose that it should be "\", even though Unix (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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