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(...) I have been able to test only a few parts iet, but here are my findings: - [flowers.dat] This file shows superimposed polys (tris and quads) in the petals of the flower, this is a problem in the flower itself (3742.dat), not in the flowers.dat (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Another file - [3471.dat] This file has a lot of work on it, but still has some problems, specifically almost all the quads from the base are bowties. See the following image: (URL) there are a few (maybe many, but few as far as our yes can see) (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Rui Martins <Rui.Martins@link.pt> wrote in message news:Pine.GSU.4.10.1...0@is-sv... (...) Superimposed polys are allowed, AFAIK. Maybe not the most elegant solution, but they render fine. (...) petals, (...) better (...) aprxomiation (...) I've (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Rui Martins <Rui.Martins@link.pt> wrote in message news:Pine.GSU.4.10.1...0@is-sv... (...) Sorry, but I am unable to find the location where you pointed the missing quads. If the arrow intends to point to the conic surface between the handle and (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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First I would like to point out, that some of the renderings I supplied specifically represent quads in GREY and tris in WHITE, and some have all the polys edge lines (the intrinsic edges) drawn, to be able to see the tesselation applyed. (...) Yes, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) You are welcome, no need to thank me for it, we do this for the fun of it! (...) Well, I have used my program to find it, but the actual image is from ldglite or l3glite, I'm NOT sure which. I used this image, because you can clearlly (maybe (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Rui Martins <Rui.Martins@link.pt> wrote in message news:Pine.GSU.4.10.1...0@is-sv... (...) solution, (...) which (...) their (...) No argument here. (...) are (...) But the amount of superpositioning is generally small compared to the overall size (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Some more comments on parts ! Maybe I will repeat some other notes, I don't know, I haven't checked all the other mails to compare, so here goes nothing. - [2466p07.dat] This part as 2 bowtie quads in the front panel See the following image: (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) This depends only on the actual part, the point of view and in which order the overlapping polys are given (also depends on view). (...) Not exactly, see what I mean in the following example image: (URL) points are marked in RED 1 - Quad and a (...) (25 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) complete half disc: It would obviously be better to use a half disc in the first place. What John meant above was, if I understood him correctly, a disc with a diameter larger than the quad's height. That way, the problem is non-trivial, and (...) (25 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Maybe he meant something like: (URL) or (URL) And as you can see, not more polygons, but actually less. as a rule of tumb, "less points implies less polys". NOTE: both examples could be even more simplified (less points) if we removed the disc (...) (25 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) LDraw code? With a circular shape having 16 segments, not eight as in your diagrams. If you think that is simpler for the parts authors (or that it requires a "tiny extra effort") as compared to superimposing a quad and a disc (two lines of (...) (25 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I only used eight, to simplify the drawing, which was made by hand. (...) All I say is that the benefits from it overweight the extra effort. (...) Correct, Can't argue with that ! But this problem surfaces, due to the intrinsic polygonized (...) (25 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I meant to say "no point _for_me_ to discuss anymore". Sorry for sounding harsh. (...) I still don't agree. But as I said (or rather meant to say, English isn't my primary language, so I sometimes goof) we probably don't need to discuss this (...) (25 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm. There's a couple of problems with your examples. In overdraw2.png, you are having the quad intersect the circle exactly at two vertices. If the quad was a bit narrower, you would need to split the two original triangles, retaining the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I believe that's why I have drawn "overdraw3.png" ! ;) (...) Damn, I missed that one, but just need to split the pentagon into a quad and a triangle. (...) As I said, the disc as only 8 slices to simplify, with the regular 16 you would save (...) (25 years ago, 20-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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