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| | (...) concerns. (...) Here is my work so far on improving the minifig arm. It is provided as an MPD file of a torso and arms at two different angles; right - upper arm vertical; left - forearm horizontal. There is still much to do on the inner arm (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Chris Dee
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| | | | (...) Repost to fix line-wrapping mess. 0 FILE armtest.dat 0 Name: armtest.DAT 0 Author: Chris Dee (chris_w_dee@hotmail.com) 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 973.DAT 0 rotated 9.782 z 1 15 -15.552 9 0 .9855 -.1699 0 .1699 .9855 0 0 0 1 975b.dat 0 rotated (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Damien Guichard
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| | | | | Congratulations Chris, This is a tremendous improvement. I wonder whether interior is really necessary. Personally I would be satisfied with a better-than-current exterior. May be the cost in display time is negligeable compared to a whole minifig. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Bernd Broich
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| | | | | | | (...) Yes it is, because at the monkey you can see it. (...) CU Bernd (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Ryan Farrington
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| | | | | | I wonder if it would be worth it to re-make the minifig hands too. The hand should tilt away from the hand "stem" at an angle of about 15 degrees. Right now, to get the correct angle of the hand to the arm, the hand has to be tilted so the solids (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | Re: More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Ryan Farrington
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| | | | | | | Sorry, all, :] I forgot Steve Bliss already briefly mentioned redoing the hand, so ignore anything in my post that sounds like I'm the only one who ever thought of it. :) But since the arm has now gotten attention from Chris Dee (thanks, Chris!), I (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) I might have talked about it, but I'm not doing anything on it right now. Feel free to run with it. :) (...) I think I measured it at 17 degrees once, but I might have mis-measured (or be misremembering). Or maybe Tore told me that was the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Travis Cobbs
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, at first glance, using a spear as pointer, it looked like 17 degrees to me also. However, I did the following and came up with 14.5 degrees: 1. Lay a minifig up next to a piece of paper, with the hand in the up position and a spear in (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | | | is BOX5.DAT really BFC compliant? Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | | I've been working on the BFC code in my application, and well, either I need to go to bed now (which is probably true either way :) or the BOX5.DAT primitive slipped into the last update with wrong-way wound quad. Am I reading this right? (...) This (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: is BOX5.DAT really BFC compliant? Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | (...) [snip] (...) No, it's correct. Keep in mind that this polygon forms the *bottom* of the box, so it is facing downward. In the default view, you will actually be looking at the backside of this quad. Imagine being under the primitive, and (...) (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: is BOX5.DAT really BFC compliant? Damien Guichard
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hi Kyle, Also seems correct to me. Regards, Damien (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | Re: More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Tony Hafner
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, we definitely need a new hand. In addition to the hand to stem angle, we also need to fix the origin to make sense, like being along the axis of wrist rotation. -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (23 years ago, 30-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | Re: More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Franklin W. Cain
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| | | | | | If someone does re-orient the minifig hand, please let me know, so that I can update this new file correspondingly: (URL) DAT file for the minifig hook-hand)... Thanks, Franklin (23 years ago, 1-May-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | | Re: More accurate hand? (was Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm) Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Urk. I hadn't looked at the hook-hand file yet. I'd forgotten how ... unusual ... the orientation of the hand was. My opinion is, in this case, logic should prevail over continuity, and the hook-hand should be given a rational orientation. (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Steve Bliss
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| | | | | (...) This looks very promising! :) Any chance you're going to recurve the inner surface around the shoulder? It would really help avoid that "CGI intersecting solids" look that we've had going. :) Also, can I reserve judgement as to whether we (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Tony Hafner
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| | | | | Wow- that's beautiful! I'm very glad to see this- I didn't really *want* to do the part myself, but it seemed to need doing. I'll try fiddling with it in various positions. It's great to have a center of rotation that actually works. Are you (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Chris Dee
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks (and thanks to others who commented, too), I'll continue with the more difficult sections. The new arm part is orientated with its axis of rotation at y=0, z=0, so to test in different positions you'll need to rotate the new part about (...) (23 years ago, 29-Apr-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Chris Dee
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| | | | | Just a brief note to say that development has not stopped on this, but that regular work has gotten in the way !! Chris (23 years ago, 13-May-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Chris Dee
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| | | | (...) More progress, at last. I think this now just needs a little work on type 5 lines at the elbow bend. I believe I have done as much as I can to use the cyli, cyls and cyls2 primitives, which should improve the appearance by renderers which do (...) (23 years ago, 23-May-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Damien Guichard
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| | | | (...) Hi Chris, With this physical connection arms will be much easier to rotate accurately. When placing the official hand at arm ends I noticed that hand hole is significantly larger. When comparing to actual part I found your hand hole more (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | | | | | Re: Work-in-progress improved minifig arm Chris Dee
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| | | | (...) MPD (...) vertical; (...) Thanks for your support. Rotation still wont be that easy, but I hope to be able to build some usage notes into the comments, to show how to do the rotation. It was already agreed that the official hand part needs to (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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