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Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
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Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:51:57 GMT
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Hi Harvey,
You are the person I was trying to have a discussion with, before I got
tangled up in all that morality of war toys stuff.
> First of all, my name is HARVEY, and my last name is spelled HENKELMAN, get
> it right next time
Okay, no problem. I'm not going to risk winding you over your name and type
it in wrong again. As for me, I get called Chris and Greg all the time. I'm
cool with that.
>
> > that TLC should produce military based sets. He seemed to miss the point
> > that many parents do not like buying war related toys for their young
> > children.
>
> <snip>
> Miss the point? I beg to differ
Well, I'm not sure you missed it exactly. You didn't seem to take it into
consideration. Not every parent wishes to buy war related toys for their
children. In the U.K, some shops will not stock certain toys because of
that, Megablox included. Just you try finding a realistic toy gun anywhere,
they are not sold anymore. It might be a similar situation where you are.
TLC would sooner take a financial hit rather than produce war toys. I don't
know how Megablox was/is allowed to get away with copying Lego in the first
place. It is banned in The Netherlands, or so I'm told.
>
> > I think Star Wars and WW1 planes (And yes, I do know about WW1
> > thank you) are about as far as they will go. We are not about to see tanks,
> > trench playsets and barbed wire. TLC are NOT producing military sets in the
> > same style as their
> > competitors (I'd mention the company names, but I'd have to spit on the carpet).
>
> <snip>
> And it's too bad that LEGO® refuses to tap into it's competitor's market
> (i.e. megabloks)
> >
> > In the same vein, there have been countless books, films and television
> > programmes aimed at young children, based on sci-fi, pirates and knights.
> > There have even been family films and programmes based on WW1 flyers. At no
> > point has the nitty gritty of the ground conflict come into the picture.
> > You guys may have missed the point, but you don't get titles like "Peter the
> > Panzer" next to "Captain Pugwash." There is a distinct difference.
> >
> > I do not know if military models are "crowd pleasers." I doubt if TLC
> > appreciates seeing them. I am curious to know if such themes are present at
> > Lego shows where TLC has lent it's support. I did not see a single military
> > based model at Lego World last year. I'm in the business of running Lego
> > shows myself, so I'd like to know.
>
> <snip>
> Then you've got your blinders on
Were there military models at Lego World? I'm trying to rememember.
> >
> > If AFOLs must build military based MOCs, at least show some real skill and
> > construct a working technic model - not have minifigs rolling around in
> > tanks and totting machine guns. I have seen bombed out buildings, suicide
> > bombers and the like on Brickshelf. Elsewhere some guy has made a German
> > extermination camp from Lego. Is this "harmless"? We are all adults, right?
> > Where are you lot going to draw the line? Is there going to be some nice
> > battle scenes on Brickshelf, with dead bodies strewn eveywhere? Their happy
> > smiling faces would no doubt add to the grizzly humor. Would you display
> > that at a Lego show to please the crowd?
Grief, I'm on a rant there.
> <snip>
> Grisly, you mean?
Okay, okay. Please let me off this time.
> >
> > While TLC has the noble (If financially painful) stance of not producing
> > military sets, I'll lend my support. If others do not want to respect that
> > policy and continue to construct military based models, to use an old phrase
> > "it isn't clever and it isn't funny."
> >
> > Good day to you.
> >
> > Craig Stevens.
>
> Who are you to condemn what others build? Perhaps you are Ritvik's
> spy...come to destabilize LEGO®'s budding effort to introduce a
> military-themed line of models while (shudders at the mention of the name,
> not out of fear, but rather disgust) megabloks rakes in the benefits.
I'm an active AFOL who can certainly show what can be done with a pile of
bricks. Check out the Star Wars competition at Slave-one.de to see my entry.
Even if I was outside of the Lego community, I'd still be entitled to air my
views. I have taken an active role in just about every hobby I have taken
up, hence my habit of opening my big mouth and upsetting people. If you met
me, you get me going on all sorts of stuff - Megablox included. No, I am not
their spy! I don't care who's effort it is, you are NEVER going to see
military Lego apart from an odd plane or other supposedly "safe" stuff.
>
> It's all a conspiracy you know <chuckles>
> -Harvey
I'm glad your'e not taking it too seriously. I'm not either. I'm always up
for a good discussion and also a decent drink if we happened to rub
shoulders at some future 'fest.
Take care.
Craig Stevens.
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