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Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
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Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:04:46 GMT
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The intention of my original email was to answer Henry Henkleman's comments
that TLC should produce military based sets. He seemed to miss the point
that many parents do not like buying war related toys for their young
children. I think Star Wars and WW1 planes (And yes, I do know about WW1
thank you) are about as far as they will go. We are not about to see tanks,
trench playsets and barbed wire. TLC are NOT producing military sets in the
same style as their
competitors (I'd mention the company names, but I'd have to spit on the carpet).

In the same vein, there have been countless books, films and television
programmes aimed at young children, based on sci-fi, pirates and knights.
There have even been family films and programmes based on WW1 flyers. At no
point has the nitty gritty of the ground conflict come into the picture.
You guys may have missed the point, but you don't get titles like "Peter the
Panzer" next to "Captain Pugwash." There is a distinct difference.

I do not know if military models are "crowd pleasers." I doubt if TLC
appreciates seeing them. I am curious to know if such themes are present at
Lego shows where TLC has lent it's support. I did not see a single military
based model at Lego World last year. I'm in the business of running Lego
shows myself, so I'd like to know.

If AFOLs must build military based MOCs, at least show some real skill and
construct a working technic model - not have minifigs rolling around in
tanks and totting machine guns. I have seen bombed out buildings, suicide
bombers and the like on Brickshelf. Elsewhere some guy has made a German
extermination camp from Lego. Is this "harmless"? We are all adults, right?
Where are you lot going to draw the line? Is there going to be some nice
battle scenes on Brickshelf, with dead bodies strewn eveywhere? Their happy
smiling faces would no doubt add to the grizzly humor. Would you display
that at a Lego show to please the crowd?

While TLC has the noble (If financially painful) stance of not producing
military sets, I'll lend my support. If others do not want to respect that
policy and continue to construct military based models, to use an old phrase
"it isn't clever and it isn't funny."

Good day to you.

Craig Stevens.



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  Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
 
(...) As far as the concentration camp models- I personally approve. They were NOT meant to be toys- they were meant as a serious statement (at least as far as I could tell). They were using something so innocent because of the effect that it has- (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.build.military)
  Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
 
(...) Yes, but first of all that was a public post (not a private email), and second you made a value judgement about adults who *are* interested in the military and show this with LEGO in your words. Just as you did in this post. I responded to it (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.build.military)
  Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
 
"CRAIG STEVENS" <SWFALCON30@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message news:H8MD7y.3Iq@lugnet.com... (...) If I remeber corectly there was one of these done by an artist not an AFOL, and it was funded by the LEGO company. there was quite a discussion about this (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.build.military)
  Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
 
(...) <snip> First of all, my name is HARVEY, and my last name is spelled HENKELMAN, get it right next time (...) <snip> Miss the point? I beg to differ (...) <snip> And it's too bad that LEGO® refuses to tap into it's competitor's market (i.e. (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.build.military)
  Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
 
(...) Hi To all of you with opinions about of military models I have uploaded two new pictures. One specially for Craig and one specially for Harvey :) (URL) Lego models is just a game don't forget that. Mattias (22 years ago, 13-Jan-03, to lugnet.build.military)  

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  Re: MOC: German WWII halftrack and armoured car
 
(...) Bulls***. Read up on the First World War and come back with an informed opinion. That war saw levels of brutality and raw horror currently unmatched in any modern conflict. And both LEGO planes mount machine guns. (...) Why should we "follow (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jan-03, to lugnet.build.military)

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