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Re: articulation points?
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lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:38:13 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Bram Lambrecht writes:
However, a device is made up of several objects.  Each component, if
treated separately, has six degrees of freedom.  Thus each component of,
for example, the human arm (reduced to an upper arm, lower arm, and
hand) has 6 DOF, for a total of 18.  However, the parts are attached to
each other in a certain way which restricts their movement.  Each
constraint reduces the DOF by 1.  When you add them all up, you get 11
constraints, reducing the DOF of the arm to 7.  Instead of counting the
constraints, it's easier to count the DOF at each joint.
o   Shoulder: spherical joint, 3 DOF (rotation about x0,y0,z0)
o   Elbow:    hinge joint, 1 DOF (rotation about z1)
o   Wrist:    spherical joint, 3 DOF (rotation about x2,y2,z2)
...for a total of 7 degrees of freedom.
I guess you would count each joint as a point of articulation (POA)?
In robotics, we generally treat a spherical joint as three different
joints whose axes all happen to intersect at the same point.  Then there
is only one DOF per joint, making it easier to count :)

Very interesting thread. A bit OT (and picky ;) mabye, but about the human arm:

If you examine your arm closley you'll find that the rotation of the hand
actualy comes from the elbow witch rotates the under arm. The wrist only actes
as a dual hinge to tilt the hand sideway or up and down, there is no ratation.

So I think it's more correct to put it this way,
o   Shoulder: spherical joint, 3 DOF (rotation about x0,y0,z0)
o   Elbow:    dual hinge joint, 2 DOF (rotation about y1,z1)
o   Wrist:    dual hinge joint, 2 DOF (rotation about y2,z2)

Regards Henrik



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i never really gave it a thought about the hand not having rotation of its own accord, but rather gets it from the elbow. that solves a huge problem i'm having with my mech. you see, i'm having difficulty with my mech holding his weapon because it's (...) (22 years ago, 20-Nov-02, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics)

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  RE: articulation points?
 
(...) However, a device is made up of several objects. Each component, if treated separately, has six degrees of freedom. Thus each component of, for example, the human arm (reduced to an upper arm, lower arm, and hand) has 6 DOF, for a total of 18. (...) (22 years ago, 20-Nov-02, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics)

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