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Re: articulation points?
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Wed, 20 Nov 2002 01:16:29 GMT
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thanks for taking the time to answer my question.  if i calculated correctly
(assuming that i count each joint only once per semetrical side , i.e., one
shoulder joint, one hip joint, etc.) my model has about 20 poa and 40 dof.
this is how i figure it:  i used a ball joint for the head (3 poa),
shoulders (3 poa), hips (3 poa), waist (3poa) and feet (3 poa). i used hinge
joints for the elbows (1 poa) and knees (1 poa). i modeled the hands after
Gla-Gla's minifig arms idea, therefore there is 1 poa for the hinge of the
wrist as well as 1 poa for the rotation of that hinge.  i also used friction
pins for the rotational joints of the arms independent of the shoulders (1
poa).  if my math is correct, total poa is 20 and i assume that you double
the poa to find the dof.  if my calculations are incorrect, let me know.  i
should have some pics posted by december on brickshelf.  thanks again.

In lugnet.build.mecha, Eric Sophie writes:
Hello, I would define a POA as a point when mobility occurs whereas the
rotattion is counted once. That is to say if a Shoulder joint spins forwards
and back it counts as one POA and should not be counted as two.

Example:
In this picture of the Little Bot Foot:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=174703
The Ankle tilts forward and back
The Ankle tilts side to side
The entire foot spins at the upper ankle

So that would be 3 points of articulation.
Together the points combined create 6 degrees of freedom.

As a rule of thumb I would say the POA should be counted then followed up by
the total degrees of freedom.

Example statement:

My Mecha is kick arse! It has lot's of movement. It rocks! It has 12 POA
giving the Mecha 24 DOF! Whoooo hooooo!

This way we all know what we are talking about.

Hope that helps. When we see your Mech we can see how many POA it has so we
know the DOF.

Good Luck!

Legomaster

In lugnet.build.mecha, Jason Coronado writes:
just wanted to ask some fellow mech-ers exactly what constitutes a point of
articulation.  i am just finishing my second mech and i used at lease seven
ball joints for the shoulders, hips, waist, and feet.  i also used plate
hinges in elbows and knees.  how many p.o.a. is that?



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(...) Your welcome, anytime. (...) Sounds right. Good Luck! e (22 years ago, 20-Nov-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)

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Hello, I would define a POA as a point when mobility occurs whereas the rotattion is counted once. That is to say if a Shoulder joint spins forwards and back it counts as one POA and should not be counted as two. Example: In this picture of the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Nov-02, to lugnet.build.mecha)

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