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Re: Disparaging remaks and charges of being elitist
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Tue, 7 Feb 2006 19:34:21 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Nathan Proudlove wrote: Hello Nathan, hello LUGNet, hello who ever will read this!

When I read the initial post by Eric, I thought to myself he’s right in some of his points and he’s off in some others. I didn’t want to chime in because I thought this gives another E-which-hunt. Still I couldn’t resist in reading most of the responses. And hey what a surprise. It was fun to read. I have to insist, that I might have missinterpreted some of the phrases, but still I think this time it’s a nice kind of smack in there. Hopefully I’m not totally wrong. This kind of talk is hard to read and even harder is to get the feeling for it over the language barrier.

   So, my guess is that this post will go generally unnoticed by the majority of the established fan community. The reason, I believe, is that my name is not known very well yet.

Well Nathan, I noticed your post, and it made me respond. (I also remember you). Ok, I wasn’t named to be a member of the elitist community. Is this good or should I be disapointed? In fact I don’t care! I just hope that at least a few guys round here remember me for my Mecha.

  

I have been developing theories about the number and nature of responses to posts on LUGnet and it seems that there are still a few core members of this online community that like keep to themselves. I don’t think that this is necessarily a bad thing. Are all you newcomers to the community’s egos so fragile that you must get upset and start accusing the establishment of elitism and clique-iness if your post doesn’t get spotlighted and discussed at length by those who have worked hard for years to establish themselves?

I totally agree. I posted with a lot of response (IMHO) and without any. I responded to posts and I didn’t. I spotlighted, highlighted and did nothing. During the last two years I noticed more than 90% of the MOC posts. I read nearly all of them. But sometimes I’m just to lazy to lift my a.. and do anything in response! This is my good right I think. And as it is mine it’ s everybody else’ right too. No reason to complain.


  
Here are a few ways that people can expect to make a name for themselves in the Lego fan community.

1. Be a jerk. I wish it weren’t so, but it appears that if you talk negatively about others, you can be sure to be remembered.

And you will not only get a lot of response, you’ll get a real heap of it!

  
2. Be controversial. I think that making racist or sexist comments or even controversially themed creations is guaranteed to generate lots of traffic and interest in who you are. Just remember that the interest generated is not necessarily positive.

You’re right! I can remember more than a handful of such threads imedeately.


  
3. Meet people. Attend Brickfest or another local con. Once you have met some of the other fans in person, this whole online community feels completely different. I personally would love to meet you, Eric, and have a pint or two.

That’s a really good idea. I’d like to join if I’m allowed to have my single malt instead of the beer!!

   I expect that we may have a lot in common. I refuse to make any sort of judgment on anyone’s character whom I have not met in person. People seem to forget how difficult it is to communicate via the written word, and how easy it is for that word to be misinterpreted. (and before anyone comments and says, “I’ve met him and can vouch for his a-holeness,” remember that I probably haven’t met you either.

Hey, that should give a funny evening, so. It seems to me, you and I have a lot in common too.


  

4. I think that the best way to establish yourself in this community is to keep building. Stop complaining and build, build, build. Eventually, with hard work and practice, your MOCs will begin to be noticed. I don’t get a lot of comments on my MOCs yet. I refuse to let that discourage me from continuing to post. This community has inspired me to actually try to excel at something and I am going to continue to share with it.

And again I have to agree 100%. This should be about MOC built from LEGO bricks. Should we all give it a try and start judging MOC again instead of their builders. Give criticism. Let it be sharp, let it be harsh, direct, offensive and clear. But let it be constructive and direct it on the MOC!

If someone feels offended by such criticism he’s totally wrong here, IMO. Even the best builders around here don’t get only praise. And that’s ok. Praise doesn’t improve your skills (ignorance doesn’t either, I’ve to admit).


  

I think that’s about all I have to say. All that I can remember anyways. Here’s to all of you and the great MOCs to come.

Nathan

That was well spoken (written)!

Thank you Nathan.

And again to everyone reading this: Keep building, keep sharing, try to give constructive response. And don’t take yourself that seriously.

Marco



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So, my guess is that this post will go generally unnoticed by the majority of the established fan community. The reason, I believe, is that my name is not known very well yet. I have been developing theories about the number and nature of responses (...) (18 years ago, 7-Feb-06, to lugnet.build.mecha)  

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