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Re: The Brick Testament - The Teachings of Jesus
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In lugnet.build.ancient, Brendan Powell Smith wrote:

On-Topic... Wow, that sure was a way to spend a Sat. morning...
By far my favourite "strips" were the self mutilation, and the forgiveness...
nothing like a bit of ironic humour to start the day.  Well done depictions,
great photography and just the perfect amount of sick/twisted humour.  Of
course, I would expect no less.  Nicely played!


In lugnet.build.ancient, John Neal wrote:
I fear that some of these scenes, such as the depictions of Bush in
"forgiveness" are too contemporaneous and won't stand the test of time (as
no doubt the _Office Space_ scene will).

A valid point, and one I considered before going ahead with these scenes.
It's quite possible that in several years time, George W. Bush and Osama bin
Laden will not seem like the best examples of "enemies", sharing the same
timeless antagonism present between the other examples I used, like Jews and
Hitler, or African-Americans and the KKK.  Moreover, a critique of how well
Bush followed Jesus's teachings while in office may just seem very dated in
five or ten years. Fortunately I've already found it to be enjoyable to redo
stories I did four years ago, so maybe I'll redo these again in another four
years or so.

Off-Topic...

I highly doubt that in several years these Bush points wont be classic examples
anymore.

In recent history, there has never been a president of the United States of
America who has created such contempt among those that typically defend,
support, or at least normally side or have empathy towards USA.  He clearly
killed those loyalties with many, and we all know enough about human nature to
know, trust is difficult to earn and so easily lost.

Scandals and acts of dishonour have often been the way ppl remember a less than
favourable president, but in reflection, things like tax evasion/fraud, bribery,
sex-scandals, political burglary, extortion, conspiracy, obstruction of justice,
destruction of evidence, etc. are a joke in the whole scheme of world news.
Mainly because while they are note worthy to some degree the overall long
lasting  impact on the rest of the world, is relatively small and
inconsequential at best.

Bush has gone above and beyond the call of duty in his bad behaviour, he has
made many mistakes which are beyond reproach. While I am fully aware there have
been many other world political powers that have done what ~we conceive~ as
unforgivable acts of horror and evil based on the most outlandish
justifications. We can not forgive the fact that we currently are  talking about
a western population of "heighten enlightenment" acting in uneducated barbaric
ways, and trying to use the idea of the enlightenment to justify it all.

His face, image, poorly worded speeches, corruption and core idealism have
directly made deep lasting links in peoples memories and has tainted the view of
what a super powers rhetoric can get away with when the masses are fed daily
doses of lies and manipulation. Numbers and money do not allow one to morally
get away with murder, regardless of the "prize" yet it's the reality we see day
in and day out.

So while it ~may~ fade in memory with the masses that live within the United
States as new presidents take charge and make their own mistakes, I feel fairly
confident that these things will stand the test of time globally.  Aside from
the atrocities of  war, I think it boils down to two things; one man effort to
single  handedly destroyed the importance of the UN and the famous last words of
"Either you are with us, or against us".  He made his bed, and never have I seen
so many ppl willing to watch him sleep in it alone.

People are slow to forgive and/or forget when they have good reasons to believe
that the corruptions are inexcusable and unjust.

Janey "Ranting Red Brick"

Fut. OTdebate



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(...) A valid point, and one I considered before going ahead with these scenes. It's quite possible that in several years time, George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden will not seem like the best examples of "enemies", sharing the same timeless (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jul-06, to lugnet.build.ancient, FTX)

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