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Re: LEGO Quality Control
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Thu, 4 Sep 2008 04:55:11 GMT
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I actually had a pretty long and very interesting discussion with Bjarke Schønwandt at BrickFair about the whole color issue. I am pretty much of an expert in color quality control-it was my job for many many years to make sure batch to batch color cosistancy of color in the paint we produced was good. And our small factory achieved some very excellent results. In paint, it is much more important than in say a plastic toy and thousands of hours of paid labor are involved when colors drift and are inconsistant.

From what I gather, and this has been discussed before-probably by me, but the general gist of the problem occurred when a paradigm shift in the coloration of the parts was made. The way it was explained to me, and this is from a bit muddled memory, was that now LEGO essentially mixes the colorant at the machine. There are, if I understood him correctly, three hoppers --one with the clear “base” ABS, one with ABS infused with concentrated colorant, and the third hopper is composed of the scrap that occurs when the pieces are cut from the molded piece. Essentially plastic necessary to create the piece but not part of it.

Color variation can creep into the process from all these places. The ABS base can have slightly different color dispersion characteristics, the concentrated colored plastic will vary and because of the huge quantities TLG uses they are bought from multiple vendors. If one did not do that, you would have all your eggs in one basket and if one of the supplier’s factories went down, your entire production would be compromised. The “scrap” will of course will be only as consistant as the batches that produced it. One then weighs an appropriate amount of base, concentrated colored plastic, and “scrap”. There is a word for the “scrap” that I cannot recall. One needs to add enough colorant to insure opacity and saturation of color. But the colorant portion is the expensive part of the mix.So one needs to add just enough but not too much. If one adds too much the strength and stability of the molded part is compromised. This is very analogous to paint--one wants to add enough colorant to achieve good coverage in the paint--but too much will weaken the film because of the plasticizers and dispersants in the colorant.

In the past TLG bought huge quantities of pre-mixed ABS of a certain color. The new system is much more flexible in that one only has to stock much smaller quantites of the colored component and has only huge quantities of the base. Again analogous to the paint store in which one has a base and can mix an almost unlimited number of colors from that base.

I did ask him if they mixed various colors at the site of production to achieve the desired color like is done in paint and he said no. In other words they do not take a certain weight of one pellet say red, and a certain weight of another pellet, say yellow and come out with orange. In their process this is not possible and therefore the concentrate is one hue made for one specific end color. But from multiple vendors.

The human eye can discern millions of different colors--it being far more sensitive than the finest machine. And very small changes in any step of the process will be detected by an observing eye.

To make matters even more conplicated, parts in kits come from many different factories made from different supplier’s feed stocks so coordination of quality across the entire company is necessary. They must all be on the same page and having the same qc standards, etc. etc.

He insured me that they are acutely aware of this and have made great strides addressing all these problems. But I know,there will always be problems in an enterprise this large and with a process that is this critical and more importantly easily discernable. The variables simply cannot be turned into constants. He also insured me that when the fiasco of translucent pieces became apparrent they went back and lookd at the whole broad range of problems inherrent in this very difficult production process and reaccessed what LEGO quality was.

I myself applaud TLC for achieving the quality that they do acheive in the vast quantities that they deal with and with the thousands of parts that they produce. I dare say few other companies do as good a job--and for sure no other toy company of thier scale does.

Perfection with anything that has to do with color is simply not possible, and one just strives to achieve a level of quality that in a great percentage of situations is sufficient to achieve the goal. I really honestly think TLG has done this for many, many years and has no intention sucumbing to lesser standards. They did screw up a while back, but part of that is attributable to a completely different way of production and perhaps the temptation to try and cut a few colorant costs when economic times were dire. They know they screwed up and are IMO well on the way to avoiding them in the future.

This whole color thing is really an incredibly complex task and most people simply do not know how truly complex it is. Especially on the scale of TLG.

tommy Armstrong



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(...) Yes, that was what they announced sometime in the past couple years. I can't remember when the change took place, but I do know that they had inconsistent shading in the dark-purple bricks that they used to make the Knight Bus in 2004. There (...) (16 years ago, 4-Sep-08, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)
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(...) Tommy, The term for the scrap is more or less known as "regrind". I've got some injection molding plastics manufacturing in my background. When molding at the machine, the material that's not in the mold cavity that consists of the part itself (...) (16 years ago, 4-Sep-08, to lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)

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(...) Here's my thing. The Flextronics deal was (URL) announced> just over two years ago, in 2006. Jake (URL) responded> to issues raised over part quality just over four years ago, in 2004. That says to me that while Flextronics might be largely (...) (16 years ago, 2-Sep-08, to lugnet.events, lugnet.ambassadors, FTX)

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