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Re: CFD: lugnet.lego.* newsgroup hierarchy
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lugnet.admin.general
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Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:27:07 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
*snip*
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> The key here is learning from the /news/ reorganization: When the news
> stuff was first launched last fall, ALL of the newsgroup stuff was tucked
> away under the /news/ directory, for example:
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> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.general
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.cad.dev
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf
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> That was the ONLY way to access to the newsgroups by URL from the website...
> yuck. Now, of course, the URLs are much more sensible:
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> http://www.lugnet.com/general/
> http://www.lugnet.com/cad/dev/
> http://www.lugnet.com/loc/us/ca/sf/
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> That is, instead of the news stuff staying inside a special little area of
> the website, the website was "turned inside out" to support the news stuff
> throughout.
This is great I really like the new URL/DB structure. Much more intuitive.
> The same thing should happen with the LEGO products guide. Instead of it
> staying inside a special little area of the website, the whole website
> should become an area for the products guide. In other words, just as the
> /news/ was exploded upwards toward the top of the site, there's no reason
> that the /lego/ products area couldn't be exploded updwards. Thus we could
> have:
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> Newsgroup name URL off the website root
> ================================== ==================================
> lugnet.adventurers /adventurers/
> lugnet.aquazone /aquazone/
> lugnet.basic /basic/
> lugnet.belville /belville/
> lugnet.books /books/
> lugnet.boats /boats/
> lugnet.castle /castle/
> lugnet.dacta /dacta/
> lugnet.duplo /duplo/
> lugnet.fabuland /fabuland/
> lugnet.freestyle /freestyle/
> lugnet.mindstorms /mindstorms/
> lugnet.modelteam /modelteam/
> lugnet.pirates /pirates/
> lugnet.primo /primo/
> lugnet.promo /promo/
> lugnet.radiocontrol /radiocontrol/
> lugnet.scala /scala/
> lugnet.service /service/
> lugnet.software.* /software/
> lugnet.software.lego-chess /software/lego-chess/
> lugnet.software.lego-creator /software/lego-creator/
> lugnet.software.lego-friends /software/lego-friends/
> lugnet.software.lego-loco /software/lego-loco/
> lugnet.software.lego-racers /software/lego-racers/
> lugnet.software.lego-rockraiders /software/lego-rockraiders/
> lugnet.software.legoland /software/legoland/
> lugnet.space /space/
> lugnet.starwars /starwars/
> lugnet.technic /technic/
> lugnet.town /town/
> lugnet.trains /trains/
> lugnet.underground /underground/
> lugnet.western /western/
> lugnet.znap /znap/
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> Now, except for a couple oddities, don't those newsgroup names and URLs make
> a lot more sense? And not only that, there's no longer a questionable
> duplicity between lugnet.trains and lugnet.lego.trains, or between
> lugnet.starwars and lugnet.lego.starwars. There's still a problem about
> lugnet.mindstorms and lugnet.robotics, but the applications of LEGO
> MINDSTORMS actually go far beyond robotics.
>
> Does this sound like a good third option? (It does to me!)
>
> There's at least one downside of all this flattening-out, though: the
> number of links on the root homepage would jump from 18 to about 45 instead
> of from 18 to 19 -- meaning that the on-screen display on the root homepage
> might become a bit unweildy.
This definitly seems like it might be a bit unweildy to me, especially as the
LEGO product line grows. Now I don't know as much as I probably should about
the LEGO product line and how it is structured but I was trying to think of
something that would combine some of these lines to make things a bit less
unweildy.
For example with the space line couldn't you do something like this...
lugnet.space
lugnet.space.classic
lugnet.space.blacktron
lugnet.space.starwars (this would move lugnet.starwars here)
lugnet.space...
This would put lugnet.space on the main page but move much of the more specific
lines down one level.
Now I notice that you left out lugnet.extreme and lugnet.rescue above or are
they considered part of town? Maybe the town structure could look something
like...
lugnet.town
lugnet.town.boats
lugnet.town.extreme
lugnet.town.rescue
lugnet.town...
Now I could say something about lugnet.town.trains here but I would probably
get killed and I do think that .trains is unique enough to leave at the top of
the structure.
I would also think that there should be some way to combine the .basic and
.freestyle lines.
It also seems that many of these would not get much traffic. For example I
personally could see .western and .scala sitting with very little traffic. I
could be wrong here but it is just my perception.
> What do you think? -- Are two lists better than one? I'm not sure that
> this...
>
> Adventurers FreeStyle Space
> Aquazone Model Team Star Wars
> Basic Pirates Technic
> Belville PRIMO Town
> Books Promotional Trains
> Castle Robotics Underground
> DACTA Scala Western
> DUPLO Service ZNAP
> Fabuland Software
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> Administrative Dear LEGO Marketplace
> Announcements FAQ Off-Topic
> Building General Publishing
> CAD LEGOLAND Reviews
> Database Local Storage
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> ...is really any clearer than this:
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> Administrative FAQ Robotics
> Adventurers Fabuland Scala
> Announcements FreeStyle Service
> Aquazone General Software
> Basic LEGOLAND Space
> Belville Local Star Wars
> Books Marketplace Storage
> Building Model Team Technic
> CAD Off-Topic Town
> Castle PRIMO Trains
> DACTA Pirates Underground
> DUPLO Promotional Western
> Database Publishing ZNAP
> Dear LEGO Reviews
Two lists definitly seem better to me.
Eric
Remember to remove ".jawaspam" when replying by E-mail.
The New England Lego Users Group
http://www.nelug.org
> But I should wouldn't want to stuff much more into a list that big. :)
>
> --Todd
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| (...) Hmm. Well, there really are have been about 30 or 35 or so major categories over the past 30 or so years, right? So it may not grow much. In the past 10 years, for example, only about 10 major categories have been added: : 1989 - LEGO® SYSTEM™ (...) (27 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) When I said there were "two main possibilities," I really meant that there were only two apparently feasable possibilities. But there's actually a third feasable possibility -- it was right under my nose and I didn't see it! (...) Here's the (...) (27 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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