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  Re: stepping up to the dead horse (was some other title)
 
(...) I suppose you could say that-- and I'd like to think that nobody would discriminate based on such things, but it's information that sometimes helps me get a handle on who I'm talking to. Often before responding to someone on Lugnet that I (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
(...) On it's surface, Larry's post doesn't seem to be a personal attack nor an invasion of privacy. If it was to you, he apologized which in my opinion is probably the best course action for a unintended offense. -Orion (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
(...) I really don't see the need to turn this into a debate too however, directly from the policy update "personal attacks, i.e. bringing more heat than light to a discussion... also known as attacking the person, not the position". Directly from (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
(...) I agree with your reasoning, words aren't bad. It's all contextual. You can bet we're talking with people whose posts are inappropriate, trigger words or not. It's just that the ones with the f-bomb and such are only the most obvious. The (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: "fired"?
 
(...) Maybe I'm not reading this right--you were fired for being a member of LUGNET?! I hope I'm just misunderstanding the sentence, because that seems pretty harsh. (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
(...) I am flabbergasted by this thread. I have no animosity toward Ken. I made a joke, nothing more, and it was directed at whoever wrote the copy, as I pretty clearly stated then. It fell flat, apparently, because no one else riffed on it, but oh (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
(...) And, whereas I agree with you that no one is immune to theToS of LUGNET, please show where Larry violated that in the specific wording of his post. Again, just becaouse you don't like what was said, doesn't mean what was said violates the ToS. (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: stepping up to the dead horse (was some other title)
 
Hello! (...) I get the impression you are all for stigmas, are you? (I react quite sensitively on things like that, as in the country where - by chance - I was born, in the past stigmas were being used to discriminate people in the most nefarious (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)  
 
  Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
(...) Sorry but being an administrator means you should be a step above the crowd in terms of you behavior. Just be cause you are taking the moment off doesn’t mean the standards should be lowered. To (Loosely) quote the Policy update “They are not (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)  
 
  Re: "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
In lugnet.trains, Ken Nagel wrote: <snip> (...) Whereas I think I can see both sides of this issue, 1- Larry wasn't posting as an admon, he was posting as a user of LUGNET, justlike the rest of us, and 2- by the very fact that he mentioned o.t.fun (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org.niltc, lugnet.org.us.clb, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  "Some pigs are more equal than other pigs"
 
On Tuesday the 18th I extended a simple invitation for people to Visit NILTC’s next show: (URL) was responded to by Larry Pieniazek, The curator for lugnet.trains thus: (URL) copy came from the library who is very excited about this show. I would (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org.niltc, lugnet.org.us.clb, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms) ! 
 
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
(...) That reminds me of a few moths ago when I used 'jackass' in a post. It's a word that has been used on 'regular TV' (not cable or after 9 p.m.) but I was offered a polite warning via e-mail. So, on the one hand I'm all for common sense (my (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
 
(...) I agree, it should not have been posted in "trains." I merely read the original post by clicking on it from the "top stories" box, so I was unaware of its misplacement. (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
(...) I know the difference between appropriate and inappropriate as well. I'm focusing in on this so called "pofanity" issue that the LUGNET admins seem to circling around like vultures waiting for prey. If they are not then I apologize for making (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
 
(...) And my point remains the same - if someone posts a message titled "Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs!" to lugnet.trains, and I happen to be browsing lugnet.trains, I am going to assume that the letter is (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
(...) Thanks Kelly, One does not have to be college educated to be able to figure out if one has violated the ToS. I couldn't recite a single item from the ToS, because it has been so long since I read it. But I know the difference between crossing (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
(...) This sort of highlights something that I wonder about. Are smaller, out-of-the way groups more suitable for otherwise questionable behavior? With things like off-topic.debate, it's skipped by default, so there's less chance that (say) a kid (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: stepping up to the dead horse (was some other title)
 
(...) Nothing really to add, but I agree with Dan. I'd want to see what the administration has done-- mostly to try and gauge: - how often are these things done? - what sorts of things result in timeouts? - has <person x> been timeoutted before? How (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general)  
 
  Re: who does chris think he is?
 
Hi Chris, nice to meet you. I'd've liked to converse under better circumstances, but needs must dictate. At any rate, you raise some very good points, and I appreciate your honesty. I also understand your need for some of the language, although (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: My Timeout
 
(...) All of them? No. I'm more realistic than that. I do beleive that a new filter would go a long way towards healing what I feel is currently the biggest issue with LUGNET though, that issue being noise. Examples of the effect (and before anyone (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)


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