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  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) It identifies itself as: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.####.#) in the SMTP headers, and that's about all I know. LarryP posted some more info though that might help. --Todd (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.266)

  Re: Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
(...) how about, instead of rejecting such messages, make a "soft" threading feature... and activate it only for mailers you know are broken (lke that Internet Mail Service, Eudora, etc)... Just write a little proggie that will attempt to guess what (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.177)

  Re: enhance one of the helps pages to give the correct news/mail address form
 
(...) Sorry... insufficiently precise. Since *MY* outlook quoting from the bounce mail.. from news-bouncer@lugnet.com - start - Your message could not be accepted. Response from the news server: 441 Invalid mailer: Internet Mail Service (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.140)

  Re: Unable to post via email.
 
(...) I'm not sure what the ultimate workaround for this is, but basically, the server is rejecting the mail because the mail transport agent that identifies itself as Internet Mail Service is broken and has caused article-threading problems here in (...) (24 years ago, 18-Feb-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.117)

  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) It's (at least) MS Outlook, or some variant, or the MS Exchange server that processes the mail, or something in the way some sysops configure it, or something in the way users use it, based on the quick tests I conducted. That's not to say (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.108)

  Re: Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
(...) I really don't think it's worth the time to work around it -- only to weed out non-compliant mailers in a consistent and reliable way. If someone is using a broken newsreader or mailer that doesn't put in the right headers, tough cookies for (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.067)

  Posting Failure to lugnet robotics
 
I have been trying for a week or two to get posting via email working. It works via the web, but I can not get it to work via mail. I get the followng response: Your message could not be accepted. Response from the news server: 441 Invalid mailer: (...) (24 years ago, 12-Feb-01, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.057)

  Unable to post via email.
 
I have been trying for a week or two to get posting via email working. It works via the web, but I can not get it to work via mail. I get the followng response: Your message could not be accepted. Response from the news server: 441 Invalid mailer: (...) (24 years ago, 17-Feb-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.057)

  Re: Improper threading (was: Re: the latest news)
 
(...) Don't know 'bout that. But I have things set up to view threads expanded which works nice. However, I do dislike Gravity because I cannot sort by thread as a secondary sort parameter. If I want to sort by subject and also follow the thread I (...) (24 years ago, 17-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.052)

  Broken mailers which mess up threading
 
This broken thread garbage has got to stop. Example: (2 URLs) countless other examples in the .loc.au group.) The question is, how do I detect this broken mailer that Ben's using? It reports itself as: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.050)

  Undeliverable Mail goes to news poster?
 
I keep getting mail bounces for LUGNET.pirates which Steve Barile apparently subscribed for mail delivery. Maybe it's the wrong behavior for Steve's (former?) internet provider, maybe it's LUGNET? The bad thing is that I get the mail bounce when I (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.people)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.045)

  Re: Out-of-office replies, mail header suggestion
 
(...) Yup, you're right: "X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21)" (...) My guess that it should be "bulk" was shaped by other mailing list I have compared the headers from and the info I found (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.045)

  Screwy email for Server
 
I posted this message to robotics (URL) got two out of office replies. This I understand why but I wish people would put an exception for subscriptions. grrrrr But why did I get the message below from the Lugnet Server? Jude Message: From: LUGNET (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jun-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 7.003)

  Replying to posts
 
To whom it may concern, My name is Tim Rice and whenever I reply to a lugnet post from my home computer using Juno as an e-mail service, the reply starts a whole new thread. Evidence of this can be found by searching for "hi here" a thread series (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 6.002)

  spam crusher
 
"Say, that reminds me..." I just noticed this spam at the bottom of someone's post: ___...___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: (URL) type of spam is generally (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 5.012)

  New newsgroups for LEGO moviemaking, still photography, and HTML
 
Three new subgroups of lugnet.publish have just been created. Some of these are long overdue. Accordingly, the breadth of the main .publish group has been scaled back slightly. Legal issues are still part of the main .publish group (i.e., not their (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jan-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.publish)  
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 5.004)

  Re: Are you missing news-by-mail digests/forwards?
 
"Gereon "Jerry" Stein" <jerry@lugnet.com> wrote in message news:J1DsE0.G5t@lugnet.com... (...) Unfortunately, you're causing IBs to become blacklisted for something you ultimately have responsibility for. One of your options would include going to (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jun-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 5.004)

  Re: Are you missing news-by-mail digests/forwards?
 
(...) In theory, that would be a way of handling things. In practice, this would overthrow the way mailing lists (not only LUGNET but in general) have handled header setting and reply behavior. I would not want to copy a well-known software firm in (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 5.003)

  Re: Noncompliant software (was: Re: Incorrect group posting)
 
(...) I beg to differ on this...I have NO control over whether messages appear threaded...The software I use is MS Outlook. From this, the message goes to a MS Exchange server. It is this that causes the problem. Unfortunately, this piece of (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 5.002)

  LUGNET's code [was: Random thought of the day]
 
(...) yes. this touches on what I meant. And let me say, NNTP and the e-mail lists are extremely important to me. Todd was teaching himself Perl as he created LUGNET. This is what I'd call "personal project driven learning." Anyone who's done this (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
 

internet, mail, service
(score: 5.001)

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