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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Well, the chain works like this: To "want" something (such as fellowship), is to imply a lack of that thing (or a desire to prevent the negation/removal of that thing). A being who lacks something is incomplete, and incompleteness indicates (...) (21 years ago, 27-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap!
(...) As can play^H^H^H^Hbuilding with LEGO bricks. But as a form of meditation I prefer music (playing, listening, laughing at.....) ROSCO (21 years ago, 29-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Then you're asserting that God is finite and imperfect? Dave! (21 years ago, 27-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Well, you won't like my answer then. Being a pretty big fan of science, but only managing to fluff in trying to get a BA, I consider myself a 'pseudo-sciece guy'. Which means I get the general concepts, adn can see how things work and all, but (...) (21 years ago, 28-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Fellowship. God wants to be in relationship with us. JOHN (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I meant it in the sense that it isn't based on an absolute, so in theory it could be based on anything at any given time. (...) Our evolving understanding of God came as He revealed Himself to us, culminating in the life and teaching of Jesus (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) As a matter of historical record, no. It is a story, as are the creation stories in Genesis. But I do believe that a Supreme Being created the universe somehow. I believe that the Bible isn't interested in explaining the hows of anything, but (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Yes, incest is prohibited in Leviticus. So are a lot of things BTW, like eating lobster;-) I think the issue predates the Bible. And I did a little research-- it appears that incest is taboo in virtually every culture (except in some (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Okay, but you'd agree that it is taboo in our culture? If so, to what would you attest that value? I'll have to do a little research, but I think the taboo extends beyond any Judeo-Christian influence. (...) I don't follow you. Are you saying (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) As clear as poosible givine the context Some folks say that the 'good book' is God's holy word, and as such, is impervious to mistake. Sure. Whatever. That's why every minister that has ever preached and every discourse of specific passages (...) (21 years ago, 28-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Brother/sister unions are taboo in most cultures AFAIK. That could point to a genetic component that discourages such unions thereby avoiding inbreeding. Or, all of the brothers and sisters who tried to procreate produced (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) This is something that got me away from "organized" religion--the most virtuous person I have ever met (imho) is my uncle George--he's up at 5 a.m. flooding the skating rink in the local park for the kids, with no thought of restitution, he's (...) (21 years ago, 28-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) So the other day I take the day off work to help my dad pour concrete. Talking to the 'cement truck guy' who has been in the business for 40 years (and a week away from (...) (21 years ago, 28-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Well, if you're like most male human beings -- you will! One at a time. It's called "serial monogamy." And if you don't get married or have children I think I'd have to say that you would be increasing your chances of increasing the numbers (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Okay, then why, according to the bible, did God create man and, for that matter, the universe? Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Out of curiosity, do you believe the story of Noah's Ark? Dave! (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Pardon? "Wholly arbitrary" would be a determination of "good" and "evil" based on nothing more than whim or random chance. As artifacts of our evolution, "good" and "evil" are cultural characterizations of certain behaviors and situations, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) There's plenty of examples of inbreeding in the Bible. Does the Bible also specifically forbid incest? It's not something of great importance to me either way so I can see my forgetting these details... (...) It is my understanding that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I'm no expert by any stretch but I think this is false on both counts. It's my understanding that if enough inbreeding occurs you actually get the same result as carefully avoiding inbreeding. I think there was evidence of this from (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
I missed this post in all the commotion, so I didn't reply earlier. My apologies to John for the delay. (...) What's unscientific about it, exactly? Thermodymanics allows for "something from nothing" as long as the net effect is zero. Quantum vacuum (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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