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		Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!
(...) Xtian church. If we were to be guided by what Jesus might have done in our stead, how different things would be. Usually though, you just get some Bible thumper that wants to use Biblical teachings to put you under his thumb -- so that he can (...) (21 years ago, 8-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) But if you're saying paying 40k for a 1978 Pinto isn't charity, and that any exchange where both sides assign a "value" to the exchange, then altruism or charity can only happen when one side assigns no value whatsoever to the transaction, (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) This may simply be a matter of our differing perspectives. If you are a uniquely qualified brain surgeon and you agree perform a highly complex operation for $5.00, then that particular operation is worth (in dollar terms) exactly $5.00. (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) No. If you give me a roof to put over my head for a nite, that may well be worth a lot more than an hour's time picking up the parking lot is worth. (best I could do on short notice on the way back from BF was around 50-60 a nite but it's a (...) (21 years ago, 14-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) Isn't it pretty sad to think that there is nothing you could do to "earn" charity? Wouldn't it be better if you went up to a church (or any other building) and offered to pick up trash in their parking lot for a hot meal and a roof to sleep (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) -snip- (...) Where did that definition come from? Did you make it up by yourself? It seems to be a very nice definition for your purposes. But wait, you said "it's better if..." in there! That's pretty odd for a system determine if an act is (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) You propose a valid system, but any kind of work-to-earn-charity scheme seems either to disqualify the relevent gift as charity or else to qualify all payment-for-work as charity. Do you consider your paycheck a charitable contribution from (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) Allow me a maudlin, over-wrought digression: We're all street people. It's just that some of us have had the good luck to be related to wealthy people, and others have had the good luck to achieve a personal wealth by what they perceive as (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) I'm not 100% sure, but it sounds like you're working from a Randian definition of altruism, which is like working from a Falwellian definition of pornography. I don't know why we'd want to pick that particular slant as the "right" definition (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) I grant that the assertion that altruism is a bad idea sounds a bit unusual. It's not a new assertion, however. I've made it before. Either review what was said then, or feel free to demonstrate that altruism IS a good idea, if you like... But (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <anip> (...) Perfectly said, Larry. Walking down the street years ago, guy says, "Hey, spot me some coin for a coffee?" Well, we just happen to be close to a Tim Hortins (Canadian version of 'coffee (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Altruism is a bad idea? (was Re: Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!)
(...) And here I was thinking that "all rights are property rights" was a strange belief. Adieu Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South Pacifique (2 URLs) Misérable Building a safer South Pacifique (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Finally some church/state mingling that I can really get behind!
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		Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
Fears of split follow gay bishop vote (URL) The historic vote has sent shock waves through the church and the wider Anglican community, with the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams saying Wednesday that the church faced "difficult days" while (...) (21 years ago, 6-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
(...) Yeah, I wouldn't be too sure about that either. The Dead Sea Scrolls supposedly have lengthy sexual passages like one where Noah speaks lyrically in the first person about the beauty of his wife Sarah's breasts. To me, nothing could be more (...) (21 years ago, 8-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
(...) Any translation is subject to introducing error. Usually, though, Bible scholars seem for the most part encouraged that modern translations seem consistent any time they find a really old fragment. But I'm hardly enough of a Bible scholar to (...) (21 years ago, 8-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Southport Lego Fest 20/09/03
I've just received word from Ted Crennell that the Southport event is up and running for this September. Details are as the following text. Please respond to this thread so we can forecast numbers etc. Photos from the NBLTC show at last year's event (...) (21 years ago, 13-Aug-03, to lugnet.loc.uk)

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		Re: Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
(...) I can't answer you question directly because I have not made an exhaustive survey on the subject from the perspective of non-English Xtian faiths, but I will answer it this way... You can use books like Strong's Concordance to get at a closer (...) (21 years ago, 7-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
(...) Interesting, but perhaps you can explain some inconsistencies with that explanation. Not all Christian religions use the King James version of the bible - certainly the Catholics don't (and their views on homosexuality differ little from most (...) (21 years ago, 6-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Saving the Xtian Church From Itself
One more thing: (URL) See that guy up there? He has WAY too much time on his hands. He's an incipient little J. Edgar or wannabe agent for TIA or maybe just a failed blackmailer. The main thing is: he is not a good person and he is definitely overly (...) (21 years ago, 6-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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