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  Lubricating axels, etc.
 
Well, I finally finished my train tables. They basically form a square 10' on a side. I'm having some efficiency problems with the largest loop. I'm having to use 3 engines to pull 4 of the cars from 4561. The loop's length is nearing 40'. What (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) How are the engines configured? One or two 2 truck locos, well weighted, ought to be able to pull well in excess of 20 4 axle cars on a level track, even through curves (people run way more than that but this is easy to achieve). So your (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) <snip> (...) Thanks, Larry. I'm using a 2 motor engine and a 1 motor engine. Both are ~24 stud MOCs. I suppose I should swap some motors around to see if there are problems with the motors I'm using. I first tried just the 2 motor engine to (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) I'd tend to think that it is a electrical issue. I have hauled 92(IIRC) cars with a single motor- so, you should be able to manage 4 with one motor, under a suitable engine (reasonably heavy). Do the wheels slip on the engine? or does it just (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) Steve, LEGO® train wheels are not designed to be lubricated. The oil will destroy the rubber traction tires on the 9V motors resulting in total loss of traction (not to mention dirt buildup on all wheels concerned). Just my 10 cents (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) [snip] (...) One last hint: if the wheels sets are quite old and have been used for most of the time under heavy duty, then they might have evidently wear in their bearings. The 9V wheel blocks are using "tip bearings" (sorry I have not found (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) I went back and looked at what was happening again. The problem is definately slippage and not lack of electrical power. I added 2 of the weight bricks and that helped quite a bit. I was able to pull the 4 cars from 4561 then with just the one (...) (23 years ago, 1-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) [snip] (...) No, there has to be something wrong with your wheel blocks. Maybe they have collected lots of dust, maybe they have a quality lack.... If you put your waggons on a table with straight track on it and you make a slight ramp out of (...) (23 years ago, 1-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) "needle" bearings. That is, they are just a hard metal point in a soft metal (or in this case, hard plastic) cup. Very common in regular MR as well where the metal is often Stainless Steel and the plastic is Delrin, a hard kind of nylon I (...) (23 years ago, 1-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) under (...) Thanks Larry, the direct back-translation of needle bearing would be "Nadellager" in German, but Nadellager has a completely different meaning here. That is a roller bearing with very fine (long and thin like needles) cylinders (...) (23 years ago, 1-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) <try a ramp, here's how> Excellent advice. If after proper weighting, you are still struggling to get things moving, there is a problem. Ben's test is good. Also examine individual wheelsets. If you flick a wheel with your thumb, it should (...) (23 years ago, 1-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) OK, I tried the flick test on my wheels and none of them spun for 10 seconds. Not my old Metroliner wheels, not my new My Own Train wheels, nothing. The place where my sets are stored is about 80 degrees right now and fairly high humidity. (...) (23 years ago, 3-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Lubricating axels, etc.
 
(...) Let me apologise. I think I exaggerated. 10s of seconds is a bit much. I just carried out a test with several wheelsets that I consider to be quite free rolling (when placed on a car, that car will go many feet of straight track if level and (...) (23 years ago, 4-Aug-01, to lugnet.trains)

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