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Sadly a look at this group, and I see there is no mention of the year
2000 catalogue. This can only mean there will be no pirates this year.
Role on 2001!
Scott A
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In lugnet.pirates, Scott Arthur writes:
> Sadly a look at this group, and I see there is no mention of the year
> 2000 catalogue. This can only mean there will be no pirates this year.
> Role on 2001!
>
> Scott A
Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not see a
return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope for
2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper makes
more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of mind,
but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
Bruce
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In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not see a
> return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope for
> 2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper makes
> more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of
> mind,but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
A pox on your predictions, Bruce!
A return of the Pirate/Soldier themes is the SINGULAR thing TLG could do to
forever mend the extant rift between it and AFOL. The new 2000 lineup looks
good, a giant step in the right direction in fact, but its still not quite
fully on target -- the whole target!
I want more 1700s themes, dammit! If I can't have Pirates and Soldiers, how
about a colonial village, or London in the era of Moll Flanders or Barry
Lyndon, or a Castillian castle and REAL conquistadors?
How about Lego Empire, or Lego Baroque? Rococo?
Lego Solomon Kane?
Couldn't they just make a series of Soldier accessory packs? I can't be alone
in wanting to fill a field with soldiers of two kinds and muskets -- and I
guess Blue and Red is easiest (Redcoats and Prussians?). And of course, this
was a huge missed opportunity in Wild West -- speaking of the Blue and the
Grey conflict...
-- Richard
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Marchetti writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
>
> > Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not see a
> > return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope for
> > 2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper • makes
> > more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of
> > mind,but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
>
> A pox on your predictions, Bruce!
Don't shoot me, I'm just the piano player! :-)
>
> A return of the Pirate/Soldier themes is the SINGULAR thing TLG could do to
> forever mend the extant rift between it and AFOL. The new 2000 lineup looks
> good, a giant step in the right direction in fact, but its still not quite
> fully on target -- the whole target!
Rock Raiders. Eyuck. I'd love to see those dumped for Pirates, but remember
what I said about "hipper".
>
> I want more 1700s themes, dammit! If I can't have Pirates and Soldiers, how
> about a colonial village, or London in the era of Moll Flanders or Barry
> Lyndon, or a Castillian castle and REAL conquistadors?
Great for adult displays, not so good as toys for kids. Wish for Pirates: that
at least has a ghost of a chance.
>
> How about Lego Empire, or Lego Baroque? Rococo?
Ghost of a chance is better than absolutely none. You are just torturing
yourself. ;-)
>
> Lego Solomon Kane?
Now who the heck knows who Solomon Kane is? (no, don't explain, Robert E.
Howard character, but I know all sorts of useless trivia so I don't count)
> Couldn't they just make a series of Soldier accessory packs? I can't be alone
> in wanting to fill a field with soldiers of two kinds and muskets -- and I
> guess Blue and Red is easiest (Redcoats and Prussians?). And of course, this
> was a huge missed opportunity in Wild West -- speaking of the Blue and the
> Grey conflict...
>
> -- Richard
It would be very nice if they made Soldier accessory packs - a bit more early
1800s than 1700s, but at least you're in the ballpark. English and French.
But independent of a supporting theme....(BANG! Thud. Piano player doesn't
get to finish sentence about not having even a ghost of a....BANG!
RATATATATAT! Thud)
Bruce
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Richard Marchetti wrote
> I want more 1700s themes, dammit! If I can't have Pirates and Soldiers, • how
> about a colonial village, or London in the era of Moll Flanders or Barry
> Lyndon, or a Castillian castle and REAL conquistadors?
>
> How about Lego Empire, or Lego Baroque? Rococo?
>
> Lego Solomon Kane?
>
> Couldn't they just make a series of Soldier accessory packs? I can't be • alone
> in wanting to fill a field with soldiers of two kinds and muskets -- and I
> guess Blue and Red is easiest (Redcoats and Prussians?). And of course, • this
> was a huge missed opportunity in Wild West -- speaking of the Blue and the
> Grey conflict...
Damn, I don't remember writing this, but it sure sounds like I could have
written it.
I agree, I agree and ummm, I agree.
Except for the part about Blue and Red being Redcoats and Prussian - I
always thought of it as British and French infantry, with the Blues doubling
as British Navy as necessary. For Prussians, I tend to use backpacks,
shakos, white epaulettes, blue pants, and the blue pirate shirt with the red
and white undershirt and brown belt. Maybe you have to be there, but it
looks quite good IMHO.
Richard
Still baldly going...
Speak to the Governor at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)
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> Except for the part about Blue and Red being Redcoats and Prussian - I
> always thought of it as British and French infantry, with the Blues • doubling
> as British Navy as necessary. For Prussians, I tend to use backpacks,
> shakos, white epaulettes, blue pants, and the blue pirate shirt with the • red
> and white undershirt and brown belt. Maybe you have to be there, but it
> looks quite good IMHO.
Like this http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg
(And I know they didn't _really_ look like this. So? ;-)
> Richard
> Still baldly going...
> Speak to the Governor at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
> PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
>
> Except for the part about Blue and Red being Redcoats and Prussian - I
> always thought of it as British and French infantry, with the Blues doubling
> as British Navy as necessary. For Prussians, I tend to use backpacks,
> shakos, white epaulettes, blue pants, and the blue pirate shirt with the red
> and white undershirt and brown belt. Maybe you have to be there, but it
> looks quite good IMHO.
>
> Richard
> Still baldly going...
> Speak to the Governor at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
> PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)
Yup, English and French (or aboard Limey ships, officers and marines).
I like your Prussian.
Bruce
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Richard Parsons wrote:
> > Except for the part about Blue and Red being Redcoats and Prussian - I
> > always thought of it as British and French infantry, with the Blues • doubling
> > as British Navy as necessary. For Prussians, I tend to use backpacks,
> > shakos, white epaulettes, blue pants, and the blue pirate shirt with the • red
> > and white undershirt and brown belt. Maybe you have to be there, but it
> > looks quite good IMHO.
>
> Like this http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg
That actually works out pretty well and looks really nice besides. However,
unless you're talking about field armies, Prussian soldiers are kind of
useless...Hessians, maybe, but not Prussians. I've always considered the
blue Imperials to be French; this is reinforced by the fleur-de-lis on the
flags, a symbol that no other nation used with such prominence.
LFB.
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In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not see a
> return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope for
> 2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper makes
> more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of mind,
> but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
>
> Bruce
Sadly, my dark ages spanned virtually the whole pirate era, but in my opinion,
there is nothing hipper in Lego (besides most of the SW sets) than Pirates. I
used to be a castle fanatic, but I'd frankly switch my energies to Pirates if
they'd come out again. And why wouldn't they? They have every bit as much
play
potential as Castle, and the piece selection that comes with Pirate sets seems
to have been exceptionally diverse, maybe more so than Castle. I think that
TLG
is just taking a marketing breather. Time Out, if you will. When they get
back
around to making Pirates, the sets will be so fresh in everyone's mind, that it
will be as if the line had never been made before. IMHO.
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In lugnet.pirates, James Simpson writes:
> I think that TLG is just taking a marketing breather. Time Out, if you
> will. When they get back around to making Pirates, the sets will be so fresh
> in everyone's mind, that it will be as if the line had never been made
> before. IMHO.
Hope springs eternal, James.
=)
-- Richard (who needs either more Pirate/Soldier sets or his dose of Lithium!)
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Richard Marchetti wrote:
>
> In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
>
> > Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not see a
> > return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope for
> > 2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper makes
> > more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of
> > mind,but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
>
> A pox on your predictions, Bruce!
>
> A return of the Pirate/Soldier themes is the SINGULAR thing TLG could do to
> forever mend the extant rift between it and AFOL. The new 2000 lineup looks
> good, a giant step in the right direction in fact, but its still not quite
> fully on target -- the whole target!
>
> I want more 1700s themes, dammit! If I can't have Pirates and Soldiers, how
> about a colonial village, or London in the era of Moll Flanders or Barry
> Lyndon, or a Castillian castle and REAL conquistadors?
Just an idle thought, but who here would knock over cub scouts and old
ladies with a shopping cart to get to:
6299 A 16-wide white/blue three-center four-gun two/three-mast Spanish
Armada Galleon?
6298 A big Armada base with TWO Imperial Trading Post cutters in blue
and white, docks, cranes, a tavern, and a warehouse?
5060 Soldier accessory packs (six shako hats, three Conquistador
helmets, three each: red, blue, white, yellow epaulets; nine backpacks,
nine muskets, nine sabres (new sword!)
And one of those fig boxes:
6200 Imperial Guard (1 Admiral, 1 Officer, 4 troopers)
6201 Soldiers (same as above except in blue)
6203 Prussians (see http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg)(same assortment)
6205 Armada (same in red with metallic breastplate for Admiral/Officers)
6210 Artillery (Two horses, ammo lighter, cannon on wheels, three crew)
6206 Pirates (Five various Pirates, all with black bandanas and weapons,
one Pirate Wench, NO Captain Redbeards)
(raises both hands)
(and one foot)
SteveC
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In lugnet.pirates, Steve Campbell writes:
> Richard Marchetti wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> >
> > > Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not • see a
> > > return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope • for
> > > 2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper • makes
> > > more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of
> > > mind,but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
> >
> > A pox on your predictions, Bruce!
> >
> > A return of the Pirate/Soldier themes is the SINGULAR thing TLG could do to
> > forever mend the extant rift between it and AFOL. The new 2000 lineup • looks
> > good, a giant step in the right direction in fact, but its still not quite
> > fully on target -- the whole target!
> >
> > I want more 1700s themes, dammit! If I can't have Pirates and Soldiers, • how
> > about a colonial village, or London in the era of Moll Flanders or Barry
> > Lyndon, or a Castillian castle and REAL conquistadors?
>
>
> Just an idle thought, but who here would knock over cub scouts and old
> ladies with a shopping cart to get to:
>
> 6299 A 16-wide white/blue three-center four-gun two/three-mast Spanish
> Armada Galleon?
>
> 6298 A big Armada base with TWO Imperial Trading Post cutters in blue
> and white, docks, cranes, a tavern, and a warehouse?
>
> 5060 Soldier accessory packs (six shako hats, three Conquistador
> helmets, three each: red, blue, white, yellow epaulets; nine backpacks,
> nine muskets, nine sabres (new sword!)
>
> And one of those fig boxes:
> 6200 Imperial Guard (1 Admiral, 1 Officer, 4 troopers)
> 6201 Soldiers (same as above except in blue)
> 6203 Prussians (see http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg)(same • assortment)
> 6205 Armada (same in red with metallic breastplate for Admiral/Officers)
> 6210 Artillery (Two horses, ammo lighter, cannon on wheels, three crew)
> 6206 Pirates (Five various Pirates, all with black bandanas and weapons,
> one Pirate Wench, NO Captain Redbeards)
>
> (raises both hands)
> (and one foot)
>
> SteveC
Arrrrrr! Boarding parties away! Take no prisoners and snag all the loot ye
can carry. I be pointing out that my lads be not so color-coordinated wit'
their do-rags, and expect black, red, blue, green and yellow. As long as we
be wishin' fer the stars, wish big.
Cap'n Redbeard
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Steve Campbell wrote:
> Richard Marchetti wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.pirates, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> >
> > > Nope, but my prediction was that if Adventurers continued, we would not see a
> > > return of Pirates. We may never see a return in any case. One can hope for
> > > 2001, but perhaps Pirates is just too out of style, and something hipper makes
> > > more sense to Lego. I'd like to know the answer just for my own piece of
> > > mind,but they play their cards close to the gravy stains.
> >
> > A pox on your predictions, Bruce!
> >
> > A return of the Pirate/Soldier themes is the SINGULAR thing TLG could do to
> > forever mend the extant rift between it and AFOL. The new 2000 lineup looks
> > good, a giant step in the right direction in fact, but its still not quite
> > fully on target -- the whole target!
> >
> > I want more 1700s themes, dammit! If I can't have Pirates and Soldiers, how
> > about a colonial village, or London in the era of Moll Flanders or Barry
> > Lyndon, or a Castillian castle and REAL conquistadors?
>
>
> Just an idle thought, but who here would knock over cub scouts and old
> ladies with a shopping cart to get to:
>
> 6299 A 16-wide white/blue three-center four-gun two/three-mast Spanish
> Armada Galleon?
>
> 6298 A big Armada base with TWO Imperial Trading Post cutters in blue
> and white, docks, cranes, a tavern, and a warehouse?
>
> 5060 Soldier accessory packs (six shako hats, three Conquistador
> helmets, three each: red, blue, white, yellow epaulets; nine backpacks,
> nine muskets, nine sabres (new sword!)
>
> And one of those fig boxes:
> 6200 Imperial Guard (1 Admiral, 1 Officer, 4 troopers)
> 6201 Soldiers (same as above except in blue)
> 6203 Prussians (see http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg)(same assortment)
> 6205 Armada (same in red with metallic breastplate for Admiral/Officers)
> 6210 Artillery (Two horses, ammo lighter, cannon on wheels, three crew)
> 6206 Pirates (Five various Pirates, all with black bandanas and weapons,
> one Pirate Wench, NO Captain Redbeards)
>
> (raises both hands)
> (and one foot)
>
> SteveC
"Knock over a cub scouts and old ladies with a shopping cart"? Hell, I'd use them for
shark bait to get those sets.......
Mark Cornell
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Steve Campbell wrote
> Just an idle thought, but who here would knock over cub scouts and old
> ladies with a shopping cart to get to:
>
> 6200 Imperial Guard (1 Admiral, 1 Officer, 4 troopers)
> 6201 Soldiers (same as above except in blue)
> 6203 Prussians (see http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg)(same • assortment)
> 6205 Armada (same in red with metallic breastplate for Admiral/Officers)
> 6210 Artillery (Two horses, ammo lighter, cannon on wheels, three crew)
> 6206 Pirates (Five various Pirates, all with black bandanas and weapons,
> one Pirate Wench, NO Captain Redbeards)
Wonderful. <<sniff, wipes tear from eye>> Just wonderful.
What parallel universe do you live in, and how do I get there?
Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out my parallel universe at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)
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In lugnet.pirates, Steve Campbell writes:
> Just an idle thought, but who here would knock over cub scouts and old
> ladies with a shopping cart to get to...
Stand and deliver, TLG...
...or the cub scouts and old ladies are next!
-- Richard
Maybe we should stand outside Enfield HQ and chant: "Soldier Packs!, Soldier
Packs!, Soldier Packs!..."
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> > Except for the part about Blue and Red being Redcoats and Prussian - I
> > always thought of it as British and French infantry, with the Blues • doubling
> > as British Navy as necessary. For Prussians, I tend to use backpacks,
> > shakos, white epaulettes, blue pants, and the blue pirate shirt with the • red
> > and white undershirt and brown belt. Maybe you have to be there, but it
> > looks quite good IMHO.
>
>
> Like this http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg
>
> (And I know they didn't _really_ look like this. So? ;-)
Looks quite nice, certainly good enough for my Play-dough version of "history
interpreted by Lego". Now I know what to do with all those blue-coat torsos I
have. (Does anyone else find them as common as I do?) Where is the head from?
I haven't seen it before. I'm sure a variety of mustachioed heads, including
the Ice Planet guy and Obi-wan would do as well, though. What might an officer
look like, I wonder?
Heather Patey
St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada
Pirate Wench / Brick Detective
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Heather Patey wrote
> Where is the head from? I haven't seen it before.
He's a ninja shogun in another life ;-).
There is a quite a trade in heads between my themes. As a general rule, I
like the expressions on heads, rather than the straight smiley (although one
always needs _some_ young and gormless minifigs).
What heads in any theme don't need is stencilled on communications gear. It
just looks a little unusual in Port Block. "Well, umm, its all the rage in
Paris this season, its, well, umm, its jewellery. Its nice isn't it. Isn't
it?"
Richard
Still baldly going...
Speak to the Governor at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> Heather Patey wrote
>
> > Where is the head from? I haven't seen it before.
>
> He's a ninja shogun in another life ;-).
Aha! He seems to have adjusted quite well.
> There is a quite a trade in heads between my themes. As a general rule, I
> like the expressions on heads, rather than the straight smiley (although one
> always needs _some_ young and gormless minifigs).
>
> What heads in any theme don't need is stencilled on communications gear. It
> just looks a little unusual in Port Block. "Well, umm, its all the rage in
> Paris this season, its, well, umm, its jewellery. Its nice isn't it. Isn't
> it?"
Just imagine them on a movie set, I suppose... or maybe that's where they
_think_ they are...
I agree they're limiting. I've heard of some dextrous poeple managing to
remove them, but they've got steadier hands than I. I usually hide microphones
behind hoods and dragon-helms and the like, if I need to.
Heather Patey
St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada
Pirate Wench / Brick Detective
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Richard Marchetti wrote:
>
> And of course, this
> was a huge missed opportunity in Wild West -- speaking of the Blue and the
> Grey conflict...
[moving further off topic]
Battle of the 'Wilderness', boy could they sell a few tree accessory
packs to stage that one.
A good civil war set would have to have period trains, lots of horses
and covered wagons, at least 15-20 types of artillery, and least we not
forget, ironclads. There would be a whole new series of sailing ships.
Somewhere around here I have a good book on the Confederate navy. Think
of the sets required to stage Gettysburg, that alone could improve TLGs
bottom line :) Oh, and decent pine trees.
Ray
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In lugnet.pirates, Ray Sanders writes:
> A good civil war set would have to have period trains, lots of horses
> and covered wagons, at least 15-20 types of artillery, and least we not
> forget, ironclads. There would be a whole new series of sailing ships.
> Somewhere around here I have a good book on the Confederate navy. Think
> of the sets required to stage Gettysburg, that alone could improve TLGs
> bottom line :) Oh, and decent pine trees.
>
> Ray
The Monitor would consist of a one-piece hull, a four piece turret (swivel,
turret, turret top, hinge for turret top), two cannon, a plunger, and two
crew. Maybe one cannon and perhaps a slide to run it in and out. Oh, an
antennae and flag. 20 pieces, tops!
Gosh, I'm getting cynical. :-)
But then again, the Monitor doesn't lend itself to much more than that.
Bruce
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> In lugnet.pirates, Ray Sanders writes:
>
> > A good civil war set would have to have period trains, lots of horses
> > and covered wagons, at least 15-20 types of artillery, and least we not
> > forget, ironclads. There would be a whole new series of sailing ships.
> > Somewhere around here I have a good book on the Confederate navy. Think
> > of the sets required to stage Gettysburg, that alone could improve TLGs
> > bottom line :) Oh, and decent pine trees.
> >
> > Ray
>
> The Monitor would consist of a one-piece hull, a four piece turret (swivel,
> turret, turret top, hinge for turret top), two cannon, a plunger, and two
> crew. Maybe one cannon and perhaps a slide to run it in and out. Oh, an
> antennae and flag. 20 pieces, tops!
>
> Gosh, I'm getting cynical. :-)
Yeah, you are--you forgot the tan BURPs to represent the sandbar the Minnesota
ran aground on, and a propeller, since all recent TLG boats must have a
propeller out of the water. ;) Maybe a dozen or so black 1x1 round and square
plates, to simulate coal and get the piece count up.
> But then again, the Monitor doesn't lend itself to much more than that.
There's still a lot of dispute over just what the Monitor looked like, despite
its being a popular deep-dive spot off Cape Hatteras even today, but you do
have to remember the smokepipe affixed to the deck (shot away mighty quickly),
the pilot house, and the railing that some maintain was around the top of the
turret. I actually wouldn't mind a one- to four-piece Monitor turret body--a
giant cylinder! Yes! Now, a rendition of CSS Virginia (or Merrimack, for
those who deny its renaming) would be a gold mine for the sloped pieces, unless
they decided to POOP the deckhouse. (The POOP-deck house?)
LFB.
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Richard Parsons wrote:
>
> Steve Campbell wrote
>
> > Just an idle thought, but who here would knock over cub scouts and old
> > ladies with a shopping cart to get to:
> >
> > 6200 Imperial Guard (1 Admiral, 1 Officer, 4 troopers)
> > 6201 Soldiers (same as above except in blue)
> > 6203 Prussians (see http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/prussian.jpg)(same • assortment)
> > 6205 Armada (same in red with metallic breastplate for Admiral/Officers)
> > 6210 Artillery (Two horses, ammo lighter, cannon on wheels, three crew)
> > 6206 Pirates (Five various Pirates, all with black bandanas and weapons,
> > one Pirate Wench, NO Captain Redbeards)
>
> Wonderful. <<sniff, wipes tear from eye>> Just wonderful.
>
> What parallel universe do you live in, and how do I get there?
>
> Richard
> Still baldly going...
> Check out my parallel universe at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
> PI[so,ig+++ pi++ is,ia-]++ AD++ NI+ TO---- S+ LS- A+ LM- YB66m :-)
Okay, take notes:
Step 1: get a matter transporter.
Step 2: beam up from a planet at the exact instant that a magnetic
space storm of some kind hits your ship.
(whoops, Step 1A: put the transporter on a space ship capable of
long-distance, instantaneous space travel with an ethnically diverse
crew and go to planet near a magnetic space storm.)
Step 3: Find yourself in the LEGOverse where you, as an adult, have to
act like a kid.
SteveC
http://www.widomaker.com/~litehous/Pirate/index.html
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